From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751091AbWAVTZH (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:25:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751078AbWAVTZH (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:25:07 -0500 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:55312 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751027AbWAVTZB (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:25:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:25:01 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Jan Engelhardt , John Richard Moser , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: soft update vs journaling? Message-ID: <20060122192501.GI10003@stusta.de> References: <43D3295E.8040702@comcast.net> <20060122190533.GH10003@stusta.de> <1137956898.3328.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1137956898.3328.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 08:08:17PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 20:05 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 09:51:10AM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > >... > > > - I would not use a journalling filesystem at all on media that degrades > > > faster as harddisks (flash drives, CD-RWs/DVD-RWs/RAMs). > > > There are specially-crafted filesystems for that, mostly jffs and udf. > > >... > > > > [ ] you know what the "j" in "jffs" stands for > > it stands for "logging" since jffs2 at least is NOT a journalling > filesystem.... but a logging one. I assume jffs is too. Ah, sorry. It seems I confused this with Reiser4 and it's wandering logs. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed