From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750823AbWAVUvn (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:51:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750851AbWAVUvn (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:51:43 -0500 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.92.205]:59238 "EHLO uproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750823AbWAVUvm convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:51:42 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IpZcu4cGd1YXmdgBZtfj1Y1OijFxf3NzMNgNPszDn9NXTj5ooG73teazrYE5Y7NHzzthh0Mw1wcKnnD8qqXa0pCodsp9i/N5uKI2Fex7jHLOGwXknYA36/bohk69ZiWzRNq6JVVcfzhvUXom8KLS01dAyisXoznqRsA8cb1L3Hw= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:50:32 +0100 From: Diego Calleja To: Suleiman Souhlal Cc: tytso@mit.edu, nigelenki@comcast.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: soft update vs journaling? Message-Id: <20060122215032.c9e4197e.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43D3ED8A.3070606@FreeBSD.org> References: <43D3295E.8040702@comcast.net> <20060122093144.GA7127@thunk.org> <20060122205039.e8842bae.diegocg@gmail.com> <43D3ED8A.3070606@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.9 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:39:38 -0800, Suleiman Souhlal escribió: > Diego Calleja wrote: > > And FreeBSD is implementing journaling for UFS and getting rid of > > softupdates [1]. While this not proves that softupdates is "a bad idea", > > i think this proves why the added sofupdates complexity doesn't seem > > to pay off in the real world. > > You read the message wrong: We're not getting rid of softupdates. > -- Suleiman Oh, both systems will be available at the same time? That will be certainyl a good place to compare both approachs.