From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751090AbWBJLzr (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:55:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751093AbWBJLzr (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:55:47 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.21]:65240 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751090AbWBJLzq (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:55:46 -0500 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:55:42 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: Joerg Schilling , mj@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060210115542.GA22337@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Schilling , mj@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de References: <43EA1D26.nail40E11SL53@burner> <20060208165330.GB17534@voodoo> <43EB0DEB.nail52A1LVGUO@burner> <43EB7210.nailIDH2JUBZE@burner> <43EB7BBA.nailIFG412CGY@burner> <43EC71FB.nailISD31LRCB@burner> <20060210114930.GC2750@DervishD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060210114930.GC2750@DervishD> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org DervishD schrieb am 2006-02-10: > Hi Joerg :) > > * Joerg Schilling dixit: > > Martin Mares wrote: > > > > This is why the mapping engine is in the Linux adoption part of > > > > libscg. It maps the non-stable device <-> /dev/sg* relation to a > > > > stable b,t,l address. > > > > > > Nonsense. The b,t,l addresses are NOT stable (at least for transports > > > > Dou you like to verify that you have no clue on SCSI? > > My system is clueless, too! If I write a CD before plugging my > USB storage device, my CD writer is on 0,0,0. If I plug my USB > storage device *before* doing any access, my cdwriter is on 1,0,0. > Pretty stable. Thanks for answering the question I directed towards Jörg, which proves Martin Mares's point that b,t,l is not stable. I think, Martin, too deserves Jörg's apology, and Jörg shouldn't only be more respectful, but listen to those who know their system better than he does. (Of course this'll turn into a flame feast how stupid Linux is.) -- Matthias Andree