From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750707AbWBMP0V (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:26:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750712AbWBMP0V (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:26:21 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.21]:23983 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750707AbWBMP0U (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:26:20 -0500 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:26:17 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: Joerg Schilling Cc: tytso@mit.edu, Linux-Kernel mailing list Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060213152617.GA15197@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Schilling , tytso@mit.edu, Linux-Kernel mailing list References: <43EC93A2.nailJEB1AMIE6@burner> <20060210141651.GB18707@thunk.org> <43ECA3FC.nailJGC110XNX@burner> <20060210145238.GC18707@thunk.org> <43ECA934.nailJHD2NPUCH@burner> <20060210155711.GA11566@thunk.org> <43F0634C.nailKUS6JSGJH@burner> <20060213121503.GA31745@thunk.org> <43F0A0A4.nailKUSSSCJAI@burner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43F0A0A4.nailKUSSSCJAI@burner> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Joerg Schilling schrieb am 2006-02-13: > "Theodore Ts'o" wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:45:32AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > If you did try to understand the reason why I did introduce the POSIX > > > claim, you would know that if Linux did try to follow the POSIX rule, > > > a side effect would be that removable devices need to have a stable > > > mapping in the kernel > > > > It is _not_ a POSIX rule, as I and others have shown. You claimed it > > was required by POSIX, but you are quite clearly incorrect. It has > > never worked that way with Unix systems, and POSIX was always designed > > to codify existing practice. On Unix systems fixed disks would and > > did have their devices numbering schemes move around under a number of > > conditions. > > If you believe this, pleace give evidence. > > I was quoting POSIX documents which prove my claims...... The source you quoted neither contained the quoted material nor did it support your view in any other way. This was shown by several people, you have been Cc:d. You are beyond help. EOD. -- Matthias Andree