From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030542AbWBNJyV (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:54:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030543AbWBNJyV (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:54:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.enter.net ([216.193.128.24]:1286 "EHLO smtp.enter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030542AbWBNJyU (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:54:20 -0500 From: "D. Hazelton" To: Martin Mares Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:03:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 Cc: Marcin Dalecki , Joerg Schilling , jerome.lacoste@gmail.com, peter.read@gmail.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jim@why.dont.jablowme.net, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de References: <20060208162828.GA17534@voodoo> <2D9D57EA-1197-4965-82ED-61DEAF73D9F9@neostrada.pl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602140503.27668.dhazelton@enter.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tuesday 14 February 2006 04:20, Martin Mares wrote: > I think that it's clear from all this, that device naming is a matter > of policy and that the best the OS can do is to give the users a way > how to specify their policy, which is what udev does. > > Have a nice fortnight True, and the point I was trying to make. Joerg has a policy that works well on some systems and doesn't on others. Rather than giving people a clear option to use the other system he has. In Linux udev provides a user configurable policy that works extremely well. Rather than change the software to accomodate udev/hald as he accomodates vold on Solaris Joerg insists on having *nearly* pointless warnings and insisting that his method is the only valid one. That's the reason I asked him if he'd accept a patch that removed said warning and converted the device the user passed in (be it /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrw) and internally converts it into his naming scheme. I have yet to see a response to this. DRH PS: Joerg my offer for that still stands, as does my offer to _attempt_ to fix the bugs you've reported in the ATAPI layer. Sadly I cannot offer to repair ide-scsi, as that is deprecated and scheduled for removal. However, with that being the case my offer to attempt to repair the noted problems with the mangling of commands by the ATAPI system remains. All I ask for is a detailed report including which model drives have the problem and debugging output so that I can attempt to repair the problem since I do not have the access to hardware that you do.