From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030288AbWBVAsl (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:48:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030304AbWBVAsl (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:48:41 -0500 Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.166]:43404 "EHLO mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030288AbWBVAsl (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:48:41 -0500 From: Con Kolivas To: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:46:58 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 Cc: Andrew Morton , Kay Sievers , penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, gregkh@suse.de, bunk@stusta.de, rml@novell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com References: <20060221162104.6b8c35b1.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602221146.59708.kernel@kolivas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday 22 February 2006 11:34, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Andrew Morton wrote: > > We. Don't. Do. That. > > > > Please either restore the old events so we can have a 6-12 month > > transition period or revert the patch. > > I agree. > > This stupid argument of "HAL is part of the kernel, so we can break it" is > _bogus_. > > The fact is, if changing the kernel breaks user-space, it's a regression. > IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER IT'S IN /sbin/hotplug OR ANYTHING ELSE. If it > was installed by a distribution, it's user-space. If it got installed by > "vmlinux", it's the kernel. > > The only piece of user-space code we ship with the kernel is the system > call trampoline etc that the kernel sets up. THOSE interfaces we can > really change, because it changes with the kernel. Sanity. It would be a sad day when no distribution in existence can support the current kernel except for a bleeding edge source based thing upgraded daily. Cheers, Con