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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: rohitseth@google.com
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:14:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606230014.17067.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1151010387.14536.39.camel@galaxy.corp.google.com>


> Would sgdt not be sufficient?  I agree that we will have to end up
> giving RO access to user for the gdt page.

I meant exporting the GDT page

> I agree that we should not overload a single call (though cpu, package
> and node numbers do belong in one category IMO).  We can have multiple
> calls if that is required as long as there is an efficient mechanism to
> provide that information.

The current mechanism doesn't scale to much more calls, but I guess
i'll have to do a vDSO sooner or later.
 
> Why maintain that extra logic in user space when kernel can easily give
> that information.

It already does.
 
> > I've been pondering to put some more information about that
> > in the ELF aux vector, but exporting might work too. I suppose
> > exporting would require the vDSO first to give a sane interface.
> > 
> Can you please tell me what more information you are thinking of putting
> in aux vector?

One proposal (not fully fleshed out was) number of siblings / sockets / nodes 
I don't think bitmaps would work well there (and if someone really needs
those they can read cpuinfo again) 

This is mostly for OpenMP and tuning of a few functions (e.g. on AMD
the memory latencies varies with the number of nodes so some functions
can be tuned in different ways based on that) 

> You are absolutely right that the mechanism I'm proposing makes sense
> only if we have more fields AND if any of those fields are dynamically
> changing.  But this is a generic mechanism that could be extended to
> share any user visible information in efficient way.  Once we have this
> in place then information like whole cpuinfo, percpu interrupts etc. can
> be retrieved easily.

The problem with exposing too much is that it might be a nightmare
to guarantee a stable ABI for this. At least it would
constrain the kernel internally. Probably less is better here. 

Also I'm still not sure why user space should care about interrupts?

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-22 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-21  7:27 [RFC, patch] i386: vgetcpu(), take 2 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21  8:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 17:38   ` Artur Skawina
2006-06-28  5:44   ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-28  8:53     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-28  9:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-29  8:47         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-21  9:26 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21  9:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-21 21:54   ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 22:21     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 22:59       ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:05         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 23:18           ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 23:29             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22  0:55               ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-22  8:08                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 21:06                   ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-22 22:14                     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-06-22 23:10                       ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-23 12:42                         ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-24  2:06                           ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-24  8:42                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27  1:13                               ` Rohit Seth
2006-06-21 12:24 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-21 17:14 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-21 17:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-21 17:50     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-22 12:23 Chuck Ebbert
2006-06-22 12:44 ` Andi Kleen

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