From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932117AbWGXLff (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:35:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932119AbWGXLff (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:35:35 -0400 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:45069 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932117AbWGXLff (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:35:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:35:34 +0200 From: Olivier Galibert To: Linux Kernel Mailing List Cc: Theodore Tso , Nikita Danilov , Steve Lord Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060724113534.GA64920@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Theodore Tso , Nikita Danilov , Steve Lord References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C42B92.40507@xfs.org> <17604.31844.765717.375423@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20060724103023.GA7615@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060724103023.GA7615@thunk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 06:30:23AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote: > (I mean geez, if you want really high standards before new code is > accepted, take a look at Open Solaris; they have *such* a heavyweight > process, with two mandatory signoffs by core Solaris engineers who > both have to do a line-by-line review, and with a promise of on-disk > and ABI compatibility *forever* ---- that we do more commits in a week > than they do in a year....) That sounds almost like gcc, only worse. I think there is something of a problem currently, tough. It is getting too hard to get code in if you're not a maintainer for an existing subsystem (reiser4, suspend2...), and too easy when you're a maintainer (ext4, uswsusp...). Ext patches don't get reviewed much outside of the developpers, and they go in pretty much without discussion in any case, except when Linus blows a fuse. Reiser4 would have be in without discussion if it had been a set of patches through time to reiser3, and would have been called 4 only when Linus yelled. I suspect some balancing would be useful. OG.