From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751213AbWGXQSE (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:18:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751342AbWGXQSE (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:18:04 -0400 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:6553 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751213AbWGXQSD (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:18:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:17:55 -0400 From: Theodore Tso To: Olivier Galibert , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Nikita Danilov , Steve Lord Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060724161755.GA3317@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Olivier Galibert , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Nikita Danilov , Steve Lord References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C42B92.40507@xfs.org> <17604.31844.765717.375423@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20060724103023.GA7615@thunk.org> <20060724113534.GA64920@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <20060724133939.GA11353@thunk.org> <20060724153853.GA88678@dspnet.fr.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060724153853.GA88678@dspnet.fr.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 05:38:53PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > I'm no talking about extends only. Ext3 now is very, very different > than the ext2+journal it was at the start, with backwards-incompatible > format changes added all the time[1]. These changes went in > no-questions-asked. The patches indeed were reviewed and changes made in response to the reviews. The philosophical/design question about whether or not optional features which, if enabled, would prevent older kernels to mount the filesystem was not asked, no. But that doesn't mean that the code was not reviewed; it was. I would also note that we didn't intimate that we knew better than the reviewers, or question their motives, or otherwise insult the reviewers such that they might decide they have better things to do than to review our patches, and that might have had something to do with how the code got in relatively painlessly.... - Ted