From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932522AbWGZKiJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 06:38:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932270AbWGZKiI (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 06:38:08 -0400 Received: from mail.acc.umu.se ([130.239.18.156]:18383 "EHLO mail.acc.umu.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932241AbWGZKiG (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 06:38:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:38:03 +0200 From: David Weinehall To: Hans Reiser Cc: Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060726103803.GB23240@vasa.acc.umu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Hans Reiser , Jeff Garzik , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <44C26F65.4000103@namesys.com> <44C28A8F.1050408@garzik.org> <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44C32348.8020704@namesys.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Editor: Vi Improved X-Accept-Language: Swedish, English X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7ACE 0FB0 7A74 F994 9B36 E1D1 D14E 8526 DC47 CA16 X-GPG-Key: http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/files/pub_dc47ca16.gpg.asc Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 01:20:40AM -0600, Hans Reiser wrote: > Jeff, I think that a large part of what is going on is that any patch > that can be read in 15 minutes gets reviewed immediately, and any patch > that is worked on for 5 years and then takes a week to read gets > neglected. This is true even if line for line the 1 week to read patch > is more valuable. What is more is that people know this is > irrational, but aren't able to cure it in themselves. Even I have a > problem of paying too much attention to endless 5 minute emails when I > know I should instead, say, read the compression plugin from beginning > to end. Well, the problem is that someone actually went through the effort of doing the week-long reviews of your code, you flamed him every time he suggested that there was need for improvement, instead of saying thanks for all the hard work and implementing the needed fixes. Not exactly the right way to make people fond of reviewing your code. Getting flamed by someone having a hard time taking criticism after spending 5 minutes to review a patch is bearable, after all, what's 5 minutes, right? Flaming someone that has put down a week or two of hard work on review is just disrespectful. [snip] Regards: David Weinehall -- /) David Weinehall /) Northern lights wander (\ // Maintainer of the v2.0 kernel // Dance across the winter sky // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ (/ Full colour fire (/