From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030192AbWGZOuV (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:50:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932170AbWGZOuV (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:50:21 -0400 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:3347 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1750740AbWGZOuU (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:50:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:50:19 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: andrea@cpushare.com Cc: Hans Reiser , Nikita Danilov , Rene Rebe , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Message-ID: <20060726145019.GF23701@stusta.de> References: <44C12F0A.1010008@namesys.com> <20060722130219.GB7321@thunk.org> <200607230920.04129.rene@exactcode.de> <17604.31639.213450.987415@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20060725123558.GA32243@opteron.random> <44C65931.6030207@namesys.com> <20060726124557.GB23701@stusta.de> <20060726132957.GH32243@opteron.random> <20060726134326.GD23701@stusta.de> <20060726142854.GM32243@opteron.random> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060726142854.GM32243@opteron.random> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:28:54PM +0200, andrea@cpushare.com wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:43:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > My distribution example was just one example of what happens when you > > wrongly try to estimate a marked share based on klive data (and it seems > > You're again wrong generalizing. With KLive I can attempt to estimate > market share of _kernel_ code (what Hans did), but you can't attempt > to estimate market share of userland (what you did). It won't be a > smile at the end making your statement right. No, you can't estimate the market share of kernel code based on klive data. Someone said in this thread 'is used by (tens of) thousands of computers in governmental laboratories the US "national security" depends upon.' klive will never get any feedback from such users. But the computer freak using Gentoo and always trying the latest things like reiser4 is relatively likely to also use klive. > The estimate market share of kernel code may not be accurate but it > has some minor significance. You are able to say that based on klive data, reiser4 has at least 35 users in the world. But you can not tell based on klive data whether the ratio of reiser4:ext3 users in the world is more like 1:5, 1:500 or 1:50000. cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed