From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750991AbWG1OI3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:08:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751207AbWG1OI3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:08:29 -0400 Received: from inti.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.21.155]:42953 "EHLO inti.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750991AbWG1OI2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:08:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200607281405.k6SE5HHq004786@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> To: Hans Reiser cc: Adrian Bunk , Luigi Genoni , andrea@cpushare.com, "J. Bruce Fields" , Nikita Danilov , Rene Rebe , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion In-Reply-To: Message from Hans Reiser of "Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:25:23 CST." <44C97593.6030808@namesys.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.1; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 19) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:05:17 -0400 From: "Horst H. von Brand" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (inti.inf.utfsm.cl [200.1.21.155]); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:05:22 -0400 (CLT) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hans Reiser wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > >But you can not tell based on klive data whether the ratio of > >reiser4:ext3 users in the world is more like 1:5, 1:500 or 1:50000. > > > ><-- snip --> > > > >I can't prove that the 1:5 ratio is wrong, but the point is that > >claiming a 1:5 ratio was true based on the klive data is not better than > >claiming it based on no data. > Yes, but I have been surprised that linux conference attendees all know > about reiser4, so I think it is consistent with the notion that reiser4 > usage may well be much much higher than one would expect of a filesystem > that is not in the main tree, and which requires a lot of hassle to > install. It is a datapoint. I think the level of hobbyist enthusiasm > seen suggests that distros may gain market advantage by adding reiser4 > support..... Great! Then /sit down and do the work to get it into the vanilla kernel/. You know then it is not a wasted effort... and you /do/ know by now (or should) that playing the "politics"/"whining" card goes nowhere. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513