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From: "D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:06:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200701021706.15020.dhazelton@enter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200701022156.48919.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>

On Tuesday 02 January 2007 16:56, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 January 2007 21:10, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > Comparing your report and [1], it seems that if these are the same
> > > > problem, it's not a hardware bug but a gcc or kernel bug.
> > >
> > > This bug specifically indicates some kind of miscompilation in a
> > > driver, causing boot time hangs. My problem is quite different, and
> > > more subtle. The crash happens in the same place every time, which does
> > > suggest determinism (even with various options toggled on and off, and
> > > a 300K smaller kernel image), but it takes 8-12 hours to manifest and
> > > only happens with GCC 4.1.1. ...
> >
> > Sorry if my point goes a bit away from your problem:
> >
> > My point is that we have several reported problems only visible
> > with gcc 4.1.
> >
> > Other bug reports are e.g. [2] and [3], but they are only present with
> > using gcc 4.1 _and_ using -Os.
>
> I find [2] most compelling, and I can confirm that I do have the same
> problem with or without optimisation for size. I don't use selinux nor has
> it ever been enabled.
>
> At any rate, I have absolute confirmation that it is GCC 4.1.1, because
> with GCC 3.4.6 the same kernel I reported booting three days ago is still
> cheerfully working. I regularly get uptimes of 60+ days on that machine,
> rebooting only for kernel upgrades. 2.6.19 seems to be no worse in this
> regard.
>
> Perhaps fortunately, the configs I've tried have consistently failed to
> shake the crash, so I have a semi-reproducible test case here on C3-2
> hardware if somebody wants to investigate the problem (though it still
> takes 6-12 hours).

The GCC code generator appears to have been rewritten between 3.4.6 and 
4.1.1....

I took a look at the dump he posted and there are some minor and some massive 
differences between the code. In one case some of the code is swapped, in 
another there is code in the 3.4.6 version that isn't in the 4.1.1... Finally 
the 4.1.1 version of the function has what appears to be function calls and 
these don't appear in the code generated by 3.4.6

In other words - the code generation for 4.1.1 appears to be broken when it 
comes to generating system code.

DRH

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-02 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-20 14:21 Oops in 2.6.19.1 Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-20 16:30 ` Greg KH
2006-12-20 16:44   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-23 15:40 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-27  2:07   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-12-27 12:35     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-28  2:41       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-12-28  4:02         ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-28  4:14           ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-30 16:59             ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-31 13:47               ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-12-31 16:27               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-31 16:55                 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 21:10                   ` kernel + gcc 4.1 = several problems Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 21:56                     ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-02 22:06                       ` D. Hazelton [this message]
2007-01-02 23:24                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-02 23:41                           ` D. Hazelton
2007-01-03  2:05                             ` Horst H. von Brand
2007-01-02 22:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:18                         ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03  1:43                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 22:01                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-02 23:09                       ` David Rientjes
2007-01-03  2:12 Mikael Pettersson
2007-01-03  2:20 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 15:53   ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-05 16:19       ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-05 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  0:36           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-07  0:57             ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-03  5:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-03 10:29 ` Alan
2007-01-03 10:32   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2007-01-03 11:51     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-03 12:44     ` Alan
2007-01-03 13:32       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-03 13:58         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-01-03 14:28         ` Alan
2007-01-03 16:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 16:03     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:01       ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:45         ` Tim Schmielau
2007-01-03 20:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 17:06       ` l.genoni
2007-01-03 17:53       ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-01-03 19:47       ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 20:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:48           ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-03 22:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-03 21:44       ` Thomas Sailer
2007-01-03 22:08         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04  3:08       ` Zou, Nanhai
2007-01-04 15:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04  7:11 Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 16:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:04   ` Albert Cahalan
2007-01-04 17:24     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:47       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:53         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 19:10         ` Al Viro
2007-01-05 17:17       ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-06  8:23         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 17:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-04 18:34       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-04 22:02         ` Geert Bosch
2007-01-07  4:25       ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-01-07  4:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-07  5:26           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-07 15:10         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-01-26 22:05           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-04 18:08     ` Andreas Schwab

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