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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: ego@in.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: freezer problems
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:35:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702200036.01515.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070219224141.GB5070@tv-sign.ru>

On Monday, 19 February 2007 23:41, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/19, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, 19 February 2007 21:23, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > 
> > > > @@ -199,6 +189,10 @@ static void thaw_tasks(int thaw_user_spa
> > > >
> > > >         do_each_thread(g, p) {
> > > > +               if (freezer_should_skip(p))
> > > > +                       cancel_freezing(p);
> > > > +       } while_each_thread(g, p);
> > > > +       do_each_thread(g, p) {
> > > >                 if (!freezeable(p))
> > > >                         continue;
> > > 
> > > Any reason for 2 separate do_each_thread() loops ?
> > 
> > Yes.  If there is a "freeze" request pending for the vfork parent (TIF_FREEZE
> > set), we have to cancel it before the child is unfrozen, since otherwise the
> > parent may go freezing after we try to reset PF_FROZEN for it.
> 
> I see, thanks... thaw_process() doesn't take TIF_FREEZE into account.
> 
> But doesn't this mean we have a race?
> 
> Suppose that try_to_freeze_tasks() failed. It does cancel_freezing() for each
> process before return, but what if some thread already checked TIF_FREEZE and
> (for simplicity) it is preempted before frozen_process() in refrigerator().
> 
> thaw_tasks() runs, ignores this task (P), returns. P gets CPU, and becomes
> frozen, but nobody will thaw it.
> 
> No?

Well, I think this is highly theoretical.  Namely, try_to_freeze_tasks() only
fails after the timeout that's currently set to 20 sec., and it yields the CPU
in each iteration of the main loop.  The task in question would have to refuse
being frozen for 20 sec. and then suddenly decide to freeze itself right before
try_to_freeze_tasks() checks the timeout for the very last time.  Then, it
would have to get preempted at this very moment and stay unfrozen at least
until thaw_tasks() starts running and in fact even longer.

I think we may avoid this by making try_to_freeze_tasks() sleep for some time
after it has reset TIF_FREEZE for all tasks in the error path, if anyone is
ever able to trigger it.

Greetings,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-19 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-14 14:40 [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:42 ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 1/4] freezer-cpu-hotplug core Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:43   ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 2/4] Revert changes to workqueue.c Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:43     ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 3/4] Revert changes to sched.c and slab.c Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:44       ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 4/4] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug from linux Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-14 14:59     ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 2/4] Revert changes to workqueue.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 15:24     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 20:23       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 20:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  5:26       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 15:33         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16 16:47           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 18:45             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16 23:59             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17  2:29               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-17 21:59                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 15:12                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-20 20:09                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21  6:29                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-21 14:30                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21 14:37                           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-21 15:53                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 15:31   ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 1/4] freezer-cpu-hotplug core Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-14 19:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  6:48     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 15:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 20:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-16  7:16     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16  8:12       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16  9:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16  9:59           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-16 11:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-16 19:46         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17  2:31           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-02-17  5:32         ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-17 11:19           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-16 16:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-14 21:43 ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15  6:34   ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-15  8:09     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15 12:20       ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-15 13:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-15 14:25           ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-17 11:24             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-17 21:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17 22:24                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-17 23:42                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-17 23:47                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 10:43                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 11:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:14                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 14:52                             ` freezer problems Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 15:14                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 16:19                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 18:14                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 18:56                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 22:01                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 23:19                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-19 20:23                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-19 21:21                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-19 22:41                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-19 23:35                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-02-20  0:12                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20  0:32                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-20  0:50                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-20 18:28                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-20 18:29                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 18:14                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 18:13                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 18:27                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 20:03                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-21 20:47                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-21 21:06                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-21 23:10                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-22 10:47                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 11:33                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 17:03                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-22 17:44                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-22 21:56                                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-23 18:15                                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-23  3:02                                                                 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-18 15:09                             ` [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 16:11                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 18:51                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 10:32                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 11:32                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:12                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-02-18 15:06                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-18 12:56               ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-21 14:52               ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-02-21 19:42                 ` Pavel Machek
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2007-02-23 19:03           ` freezer problems Gautham R Shenoy

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