From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030519AbXCCWpn (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:45:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030525AbXCCWpn (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:45:43 -0500 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.179]:50121 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030519AbXCCWpl convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0500 From: Arnd Bergmann To: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [RFC] Heads up on sys_fallocate() Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:45:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: Dave Kleikamp , Andrew Morton , "Amit K. Arora" , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, suparna@in.ibm.com, cmm@us.ibm.com, alex@clusterfs.com, suzuki@in.ibm.com, Ulrich Drepper References: <20070117094658.GA17390@amitarora.in.ibm.com> <1172789056.11165.42.camel@kleikamp.austin.ibm.com> <20070301233819.GB31072@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20070301233819.GB31072@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703032345.33137.arnd@arndb.de> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:bf0b512fe2ff06b96d9695102898be39 X-Provags-ID2: V01U2FsdGVkX187hxnkAl2bmVoDE8OouzPq64An58Ztuva8cdN y9tU5WuvVlxHUMxQ6PlmbXv0SoOYjwf8NR4Kf6Xc3AR06phKET TWbi3xGgEEogC2hNUPQ7A== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 02 March 2007 00:38:19 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Forgive me if I haven't put enough thought into it, but would it be > > useful to create a generic_fallocate() that writes zeroed pages for any > > non-existent pages in the range?  I don't know how glibc currently > > implements posix_fallocate(), but maybe the kernel could do it more > > efficiently, even in generic code.  Maybe we don't care, since the major > > file systems can probably do something better in their own code. > > I'd be more happy to have the write out zeroes loop in glibc.  And > glibc needs to have it anyway, for older kernels. A generic_fallocate makes sense to me iff we can do it in the kernel more significantly more efficiently than in glibc, e.g. by using only a single page in page cache instead of one for each page to be preallocated. If glibc is smart enough to do an optimal implementation, I fully agree with you. Arnd <><