From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965404AbXCQLEI (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:04:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965454AbXCQLEH (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:04:07 -0400 Received: from psmtp08.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.22]:38354 "EHLO psmtp08.wxs.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965404AbXCQLEE (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:04:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:07:10 +0100 From: jos poortvliet X-Face: $0>4o"Xx2u2q(Tx!D+6~yPc{ZhEfnQnu:/nthh%Kr%f$aiATk$xjx^X4admsd*)=?utf-8?q?IZz=3A=5FkT=0A=09=7CurITP!=2E?=)L`*)Vw@4\@6>#r;3xSPW`,~C9vb`W/s]}Gq]b!o_/+(lJ:b)=?utf-8?q?T0=26KCLMGvG=7CS=5E=0A=09z=7B=5C=2E7EtehxhFQE=27eYSsir/=7CtQ?= =?utf-8?q?j=23rWQe4o?=>WC>_R To: ck@vds.kolivas.org Cc: Ingo Molnar , Nicholas Miell , Al Boldi , Mike Galbraith , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds Message-id: <200703171207.15221.jos@mijnkamer.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=nextPart2338137.xGniYVI2nM Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200703042335.26785.a1426z@gawab.com> <1174112768.3144.8.camel@entropy> <20070317075615.GC13685@elte.hu> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart2338137.xGniYVI2nM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Op Saturday 17 March 2007, schreef Ingo Molnar: > so it is not at all clear to me that RSDL is indeed an improvement, if > it does not have comparable auto-nice properties. Wasn't the point of RSDL to get rid of the auto-nice, because it caused=20 starvation, unpredictable behaviour and other problems? Anyway, I think it's a good thing we keep having a look at mike's problem, = but=20 it's not clear to me how far he got in solving it. Does the latest patch=20 solve the interactivity problem, providing X is niced -10 (or something)???= =20 If it does, I think that's the solution - at least until the X ppl fix X=20 itself. Distributions can just go back renicing X (they did that before,=20 after all), and the biggest problem is fixed. Then all other users can have= =20 the improvements RSDL offers, the developers can rejoice over the simpler a= nd=20 cleaner design and code, and everybody is happy. If it doesn't solve the problem, more work is in order. I think ignoring a= =20 clear regression to mainline, no matter how rare, isn't smart. It might=20 indicate an underlying problem, and even if it doesn't - you don't want ppl= =20 complaining the new kernel isn't interactive anymore or something... /Jos =2D-=20 Disclaimer: Alles wat ik doe denk en zeg is gebaseerd op het wereldbeeld wat ik nu heb.= =20 Ik ben niet verantwoordelijk voor wijzigingen van de wereld, of het beeld w= at=20 ik daarvan heb, noch voor de daaruit voortvloeiende gedragingen van mezelf.= =20 Alles wat ik zeg is aardig bedoeld, tenzij expliciet vermeld. --nextPart2338137.xGniYVI2nM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBF+8vf+wgQ1AD35iwRAsplAJ4w8UJtSP3FMLYZf8h1slFC0akXxQCgkPlo OtG+AZSzefYtrsWpwAqEgQA= =E72y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2338137.xGniYVI2nM--