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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/9] Conditional Calls - Hash Table
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:33:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070601203306.GA14316@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070601193558.GH7217@one.firstfloor.org>

* Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org) wrote:
> > Yes, but as you have probably understood, I want to have everything
> > embedded at the cond_call() site rather than polluting the rest of the
> > code with declarations.
> 
> A cond call is essentially a fancy variable. And the Linux kernel
> is written in C and in C you declare variables before you use them.
> Also it would allow compile time checking against typos and 
> allow removing some nasty hash table code. The proposal sounds like a 
> clear winner to me. 
> 

You could not declare in advance a structure that would contain pointers
to every load immediate instruction of the optimized cond_calls. Unless
I'm wrong, this idea just can't be implemented in C.

> > Also, if we have the same cond_calls in different modules, in which
> > module shall it be defined ?
> 
> In one of them. Like all other variables in C.
> 

I understand that if we limit ourselves to applications like the two
toy examples I proposed (enabling profiling and bug fixups), it could
make sense to try to declare a variable somewhere and later use it in
the body of functions (except the fact that it cannot work, due to
incapacity to declare pointers to each load immediate instruction, as
stated above). Even if it would work, the main purpose here is to
support the Linux Kernel Markers, where the goal is to provide the
ability to declare a marker within the body of a function without
requiring more hassle than a printk, but with less performance impact
than the latter. Also, we would not want the whole kernel to recompile
simply because someone chose to add one or two marker in his own driver
to extract some more information and had to add them to some globally
included header file.

Therefore, due to the use of cond_calls within markers, I strongly
prefer the dynamic implementation I proposed to implementations
requiring additional variable declaration and frequent header changes.

Mathieu


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Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-01 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-30 14:00 [patch 0/9] Conditional Calls - for 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 1/9] Conditional Calls - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 16:34     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 13:47   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 18:40     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-04 19:01   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-13 15:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-13 21:51       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-14 16:02         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-14 21:06           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-20 21:59             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-21 13:00               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 13:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 2/9] Conditional Calls - Hash Table Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 13:42   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 16:08     ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 16:46       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 17:07         ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 17:45           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 18:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 18:49               ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 19:35               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-06-01 20:44                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 22:26                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 18:03           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 3/9] Conditional Calls - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 4/9] Conditional Calls - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 5/9] Conditional Calls - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 13:54   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 19:02     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 6/9] Conditional Calls - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 7/9] Conditional Calls - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 8/9] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use conditional calls Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 21:07     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 21:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 21:38         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 9/9] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-01 15:54     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 16:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-01 16:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:59   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-31 21:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 23:41       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-04 22:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 21:44   ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-31 21:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 13:39   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 22:07     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 22:33       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 22:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-29 18:33 [patch 0/9] Conditional Calls Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-29 18:33 ` [patch 2/9] Conditional Calls - Hash Table Mathieu Desnoyers

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