From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752960AbXFUXXS (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751385AbXFUXXK (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:10 -0400 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:51929 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750978AbXFUXXJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:23:08 -0400 To: Zolt?n HUBERT Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 Message-ID: <20070621232308.GG10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <200706212349.54983.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> <9a8748490706211529yca0588dgd1f7e0b86f7e4a62@mail.gmail.com> <200706220057.33984.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200706220057.33984.zoltan.hubert@zzaero.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:57:33AM +0200, Zolt?n HUBERT wrote: > Well, I'm using SuSE Pro 9.3 (excellent choice by the way), > coming with kernel 2.6.10-SuSE, on a ATI laptop, and the > drivers privided wouldn't compile (suspend & freinds). The > SATA disks were only supported from 2.6.15 (which just came > out), so I had to edit the "source code" of a closed source > driver to make it all work well. If that's "easy" for you I > doubt it is for 99.999% of earth's population. "World > domination" is far away. Have you ever tried installing windows xp from scratch on a new laptop? Same (if not worse) problem. > Also, the 7 National Instruments cards I'm using for a > deformable mirror in Adaptive Optics in an industrial PC > are "certified" for SuSE 9.3 only. Which, this week, got > discontinued. So what now ? If you buy hardware that only works with one particular release of one distribution, that is pretty much a way to ensure you will soon be unable to use that hardware anymore. Don't do that. > ???? should ???? who do you think "users" are ???? People that install a distribution and use it. Sometimes they upgrade to the next release of the distribution. > Who said I was using vanilla kernels ? Well if you change the kernel on your distribution, then you aren't running that distribution anymore. You changed something. > no, it's MY problem. Well it is their problem to fix, and your problem that you bought their stuff in the first place. > and what about their users ? The kernel developers can't fix the problems of the closed source code anyhow, so it isn't the kernel developers problem. It is a problem of the closed source developer and their users (who chose that hardware themselves.) The kernel developers didn't recomend the hardware, and didn't make the users buy that stuff. -- Len Sorensen