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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	jamagallon@ono.com, tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New format Intel microcode...
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:09:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070628230914.GB14519@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468434DE.103@tmr.com>

> I was mainly concerned with this being a new issue, and curious if 
> Microsoft was calling an O/S bug a "microcode fix," given that the 
> average Windows user doesn't know microcode from nanotech anyway. The 
> non-answer from Arjan didn't answer either, and started by calling the 
> report FUD, implying that Slashdot was wrong (not about this), and 
> issuing so little answer and so much obfuscation that I thought he might 
> be running for President. ;-)

Well you can read the Intel documentation if you want the whole story.
You can hardly expect a full introduction in the basics and then
subtle issues of TLB flushing in a quick email.  You asked about opinions 
and summaries and those you got.

> I'd like the microcode update, 

It's called the "placebo effect" in the literature I believe.

> some people elsewhere speculate that user 
> level code could effect reliability if not security. 

speculate is the key word.

> I worry that an old 
> 2.4 kernel would be an issue, even in kvm, if that were the case.

TLB flushing in virtualization works completely different. I doubt
it would be affected.

-Andi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-28 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-22 23:45 New format Intel microcode Daniel J Blueman
2007-03-23  0:43 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-23  9:43   ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-23  9:03     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-03-26  8:34       ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-26  8:52         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-26 21:42   ` Daniel J Blueman
2007-06-26 23:29     ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-28 13:53       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-28 14:12         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 15:48           ` Alex Riesen
2007-06-28 17:27           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-28 17:29             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 17:54             ` Daniel J Blueman
2007-06-28 15:27         ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-28 15:44           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-28 22:55             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-28 22:23           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-28 22:30             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 23:09             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-07-02  8:56   ` Alex Riesen
2007-07-02 17:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-02 18:22       ` Alex Riesen

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