From: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
To: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jing Xue <jingxue@digizenstudio.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git guidance
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:55:04 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200712072155.04643.a1426z@gawab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47583E57.9050208@op5.se>
Andreas Ericsson wrote:
> Al Boldi wrote:
> > Phillip Susi wrote:
> >> Al Boldi wrote:
> >>> IOW, git currently only implements the server-side use-case, but fails
> >>> to deliver on the client-side. By introducing a git-client manager
> >>> that handles the transparency needs of a single user, it should be
> >>> possible to clearly isolate update semantics for both the client and
> >>> the server, each handling their specific use-case.
> >>
> >> Any talk of client or server makes no sense since git does not use a
> >> client/server model.
> >
> > Whether git uses the client/server model or not does not matter; what
> > matters is that there are two distinct use-cases at work here: one on
> > the server/repository, and the other on the client.
>
> Git is distributed. The repository is everywhere. No server is actually
> needed. Many use one anyway since it can be convenient. It's not, however,
> necessary.
When you read server, don't read it as localized; a server can be
distributed. What distinguishes a server from an engine is that it has to
handle a multi-user use-case. How that is implemented, locally or remotely
or distributed, is another issue.
> >> If you wish to use a centralized repository, then
> >> git can be set up to transparently push/pull to/from said repository if
> >> you wish via hooks or cron jobs.
> >
> > Again, this only handles the interface to/from the server/repository,
> > but once you pulled the sources, it leaves you without Version Control
> > on the client.
>
> No, that's CVS, SVN and other centralized scm's. With git you have perfect
> version control on each peer. That's the entire idea behind "fully
> distributed".
As explained before in this thread, replicating the git tree on the client
still doesn't provide the required transparency.
> > By pulling the sources into a git-client manager mounted on some dir, it
> > should be possible to let the developer work naturally/transparently in
> > a readable/writeable manner, and only require his input when reverting
> > locally or committing to the server/repository.
>
> How is that different from what every SCM, including git, is doing today?
> The user needs to tell the scm when it's time to take a snapshot of the
> current state. Git is distributed though, so committing is usually not the
> same as publishing. Is that lack of a single command to commit and publish
> what's nagging you? If it's not, I completely fail to see what you're
> getting at, unless you've only ever looked at repositories without a
> worktree attached, or you think that git should work like an editor's
> "undo" functionality, which would be quite insane.
You need to re-read the thread.
Thanks!
--
Al
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-06 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-29 15:52 git guidance Jing Xue
2007-11-29 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-01 6:50 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-04 22:21 ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-07 17:35 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-06 18:24 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 18:55 ` Al Boldi [this message]
2007-12-06 20:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-07 4:37 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07 8:40 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 10:53 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07 11:47 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 19:04 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-07 19:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-07 22:07 ` Luke Lu
2007-12-08 4:56 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-08 5:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-08 10:41 ` Al Boldi
2007-12-08 11:13 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-07 12:30 ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-12-07 21:17 ` david
2007-12-07 22:00 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-12-06 21:46 ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-08 6:33 ` Martin Langhoff
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-27 22:33 Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-27 22:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-27 22:55 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-27 23:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-28 0:43 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-28 0:49 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-28 12:49 ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 13:45 ` Rogan Dawes
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711281545170.27959@racer.site>
2007-11-28 17:14 ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 18:14 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-28 18:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-11-28 18:41 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-29 5:27 ` Al Boldi
2007-11-29 12:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-28 13:38 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 21:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-28 11:23 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 12:31 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2007-11-27 23:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-28 15:15 ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 15:57 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-28 16:37 ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 19:10 ` willem
2007-11-28 19:18 ` Dave Quigley
2007-11-28 23:22 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-11-29 12:45 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-11-29 13:03 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-11-28 7:41 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2007-11-29 12:51 ` Tilman Schmidt
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