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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	clameter@sgi.com, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com, holt@sgi.com,
	steiner@sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:32:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080117193252.GC24131@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478F9C9C.7070500@qumranet.com>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:21:16PM +0200, Izik Eidus wrote:
> ohh i like it, this is cleaver solution, and i guess the cost of the 
> vmexits wont be too high if it will
> be not too much aggressive....

Yes, and especially during swapping, the system isn't usually CPU
bound. The idea is to pay with some vmexit minor fault when the CPU
tends to be idle, to reduce the amount of swapouts. I say swapouts and
not swapins because it will mostly help avoiding writing out swapcache
to disk for no good reason. Swapins already have a chance not to
generate any read-I/O if the removed spte is really hot.

To make this work we still need notification from the VM about memory
pressure and perhaps the slab shrinker method is enough even if it has
a coarse granularity. Freeing sptes during memory pressure converges
also with the objective of releasing pinned slab memory so that the
spte cache can grow more freely (the 4k PAGE_SIZE for 0-order page
defrag philosophy will also appreciate that to work). There are lots
of details to figure out in an good implementation though but the
basic idea converges on two fairly important fronts.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-17 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-13 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-15  4:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-15 20:18     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16  1:06       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16  9:01 ` Brice Goglin
2008-01-16 10:19   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42 ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-16 17:48   ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 16:23     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21       ` Izik Eidus
2008-01-17 19:32         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-01-21 12:52           ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22  2:21             ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2008-01-22 14:43               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:08                 ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 20:34                   ` [kvm-devel] [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 22:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:53                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 10:27                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 10:52                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:34                               ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23 19:58                                 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:47                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24  5:56                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 12:26                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 12:34                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 12:32                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 17:33                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 20:27                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 20:07                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-25  6:35                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 14:34                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 14:41                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 15:18                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23  0:40                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-23  1:21                         ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 13:19                       ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:12                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 14:18                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:35                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-23 15:48                               ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24  4:03                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-23 17:47                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-01-24  6:01                           ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24  6:45                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24  2:00                   ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
2008-01-24  4:05                     ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28             ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-22 22:10                 ` Hugh Dickins

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