From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755556AbYBLWCY (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:02:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751788AbYBLWCP (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:02:15 -0500 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:54114 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751600AbYBLWCN (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:02:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:51:52 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Al Viro Cc: Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , Jeff Garzik , David Miller , arjan@infradead.org, greg@kroah.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Message-ID: <20080212215152.1470fe7f@core> In-Reply-To: <20080212194100.GH27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20080212044314.GA4888@kroah.com> <20080211211751.3e265754@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20080211.221126.230471463.davem@davemloft.net> <47B1CB08.4020101@garzik.org> <1202838082.3137.54.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1202840682.3137.83.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080212194100.GH27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > We could simply decide that API changes affecting more than one subsystem > Must Be Serialized(tm). Explicitly. As in "any such change is posted Welcome to dreamland. The only way I can get serial changes done is to wait months and eventually simply persuade Andrew to ignore the "maintainers" who are basically not responding. Maybe it works for vfs and mm internals but out here in driverspace forget it - and if I simply break drivers people get cross instead of fixing them nowdays.