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From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: htejun@gmail.com
Cc: tomof@acm.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp,
	James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, efault@gmx.de,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	jgarzik@pobox.com, bzolnier@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:53:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080304175302T.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47CCB4D8.8090600@gmail.com>

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:32:56 +0900
Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> wrote:

> FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> >> Yeah, libata did its own padding and needed to add draining.  Private
> >> implementation was complex as hell and James suggested moving them to
> >> block layer.  Are you suggesting moving them back to drivers?
> > 
> > No, I'm not. I've been working on the IOMMUs to remove such
> > workarounds in LLDs.
> > 
> > What drivers need to do on this is just adding a padding length, that
> > is, drivers don't need to change the structure of the sg list (like
> > splitting a sg entry), right? And it doesn't break the SAS drivers
> > that support SATAPI, does it?
> > 
> > But I agree that drivers want to get a complete sglist so I'm fine
> > with adjusting sglist entries in the block layer with your secode
> > patch (separate out padding from alignment). As we discussed, I'm fine
> > with breaking sum(sg) == rq->data_len as long as rq->data_len means
> > the true data length.
> 
> As long as the second patch is in, what value rq->data_len indicates
> doesn't matter to drivers which don't use explicit padding or draining,
> so the situation is much more controlled.  I don't care which value
> rq->data_len would indicate.  I'd prefer it equal sum(sg) as that value
> is what IDE and libata which will be the major users of padding and/or
> draining expect in rq->data_len but fixing up that shouldn't be too
> difficult.  I guess this can be determined by Jens.  If Jens likes
> rq->data_len to contain requested transfer size, I'll post updated patches.

OK, I prefer rq->data_len means the true data length though you prefer
rq->data_len means the allocated buffer length (the true data length
plus padding and drain). We agree on other things. We can live with
either way.

Jens, what's your preference?


> >>>> buffer after it, it ends up with unaligned sg entry in the middle and
> >>>> rq->data_len + rq->extra_len will overrun the sg entry after the drain
> >>>> page which is really dangerous.
> >>> The drivers know that they use drain buffer. They can take care about
> >>> themselves on this too. If we want to do explicitly, we could have
> >>> rq->pad_len and rq->drain_len instead of rq->extra_len, though I think
> >>> that we are fine without these values because these drivers already
> >>> tell the block layer what they want and know that the block layer
> >>> gives it.
> >> So, if a driver has requested aligning and draining, the driver should
> >> extend the sg entry before the last one by the alignment if draining was
> >> used for the request and extent the last sg if the draining wasn't used.
> >>  I'd rather just implement them in the drivers.
> > 
> > The block layer extends the sg entry? The drivers just adjust
> > sg->length?
> 
> Still, do you really wanna force such things into low level drivers?
> That will be one extremely fragile API and will be really difficult to
> tell when things go wrong.

No, I don't, as I explained above. As long as rq->data_len means the
true data length, I'm fine. I knew that James' drain buffer patch
breaks rq->data_len == sum(sg). I don't care about it. I can
understand that drivers wants to a perfect sglist.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-04  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-21  8:42 regression: CD burning (k3b) went broke Mike Galbraith
2008-02-22  7:32 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-23  7:42   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-24  7:54     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26  9:48       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26 13:36         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-26 23:08           ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-27  0:46             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-27  2:58               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  2:24             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  6:00               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-27  7:07                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-28  7:43                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-28  8:20                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-28  8:50                       ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling Tejun Heo
2008-02-28 15:35                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-28 15:46                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-02-29 16:47                             ` James Bottomley
2008-02-29 20:11                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-01  6:17                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-01 15:19                                   ` James Bottomley
2008-03-02 14:52                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-02 18:46                                     ` Mike Christie
2008-03-03  3:27                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-03  2:40                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  3:59                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03  4:09                                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  6:08                                           ` [PATCH 1/2] " Tejun Heo
2008-03-03  6:10                                             ` [PATCH] block: separate out padding from alignment Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 18:27                                               ` James Bottomley
2008-03-03  8:26                                           ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03  9:21                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 12:17                                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 13:38                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 13:50                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 13:55                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 14:01                                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 14:22                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-03 14:52                                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-03 22:44                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  2:11                                                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  2:32                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  8:53                                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2008-03-04  8:59                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04  9:06                                                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:22                                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:30                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  9:35                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04  9:40                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04  9:46                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 12:37                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 12:39                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 12:43                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 12:58                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 13:03                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 14:25                                                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:17                                                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:29                                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:35                                                                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:45                                                                                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 18:49                                                                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 18:54                                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:26                                                                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:28                                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 16:04                                                                                 ` James Bottomley
2008-03-04 18:46                                                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 17:34                                                                                 ` walt
2008-03-04 17:59                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 19:42                                                                                   ` Kiyoshi Ueda
2008-03-04 12:40                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 12:45                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 13:30                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04 13:50                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 16:17                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 16:42                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:26                                                                                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-04 18:35                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:27                                                                                         ` James Bottomley
2008-03-04 18:33                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 18:45                                                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:25                                                                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:33                                                                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-04 19:34                                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-04 19:19                                                                                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04 23:33                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-04 23:54                                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05  0:26                                                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-05  0:44                                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-06  4:56                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-06  5:02                                                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 10:16                                                                                               ` [PATCH] blk: missing add of padded bytes to io completion byte count Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 12:28                                                                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-05 12:33                                                                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 12:46                                                                                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 12:48                                                                                                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 13:45                                                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 13:51                                                                                                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-05 14:08                                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-05 15:21                                                                                                           ` James Bottomley
2008-03-06  4:41                                                                                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-06 13:41                                                                                                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-07  0:07                                                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-07 15:07                                                                                                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-08  1:06                                                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-20 12:54                                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-05 14:46                                                                                                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-03-05 15:11                                                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-03-06  5:02                                                                                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-04  9:29                                                                       ` [PATCH] block: fix residual byte count handling Tejun Heo

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