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From: ext Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <ext-adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
Cc: ext Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com, Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:03:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080428090346.GB14100@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4815784F.2070601@nokia.com>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:10:07AM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>> So instead of arguing about this you really ought to look at what
>>> SLUB, for example, does. It's perfectly okay to have _debugging
>>> checks_ compiled out (stuff like verify_inode and such) but at the
>>> assertion level it makes no sense whatsoever!
>>
>> Yes, having this in filesystems is not very nice.
>
> A technical reason would be more compelling than "not very nice".

These checks are if properly maintained not harmful for the code,
but they make the code less readable and there's of course the chance
that they get out of sync.  That's why the term "not very nice" is
entirely apropinquate here.

>> If someone feels
>> very strong about interface assertation we should add them at the
>> method level boundary so that the interface is verified for all
>> filesystems.
>>
>
> The checks are not valid for all file systems.
>
> The point of the checks as preconditions is lost if they moved elsewhere.
>
> VFS code paths are not simple, so the suggestion is impractical anyway.

Most of these checks are indeed generic.  Those that arise from special
filesystem invariants like not having unmapped buffers due to
implementing ->page_mkwrite should for now be checked in the filesystem,
although I'd like to make sure this is true for all filesystems
long-term.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-28  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-27 14:55 [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 01/26] VFS: introduce writeback_inodes_sb() Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 02/26] UBIFS: add I/O sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 03/26] UBIFS: add flash scanning Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 04/26] UBIFS: add journal replay Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 05/26] UBIFS: add file-system build Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28 10:12   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-28 11:04     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 06/26] UBIFS: add superblock and master node Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 07/26] UBIFS: add file-system recovery Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 08/26] UBIFS: add compression support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 09/26] UBIFS: add key helpers Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 10/26] UBIFS: add the journal Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 11/26] UBIFS: add commit functionality Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 12/26] UBIFS: add TNC implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 13/26] UBIFS: add TNC commit implementation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 14/26] UBIFS: add TNC shrinker Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 15/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 16/26] UBIFS: add LEB properties tree Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 17/26] " Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 18/26] UBIFS: add LEB find subsystem Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 19/26] UBIFS: add Garbage Collector Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  2:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 20/26] UBIFS: add VFS operations Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 13:36   ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-27 13:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 12:08   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 12:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 13:12       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 14:04         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 15:14           ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 21/26] UBIFS: add budgeting Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 22/26] UBIFS: add extended attribute support Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 23/26] UBIFS: add orphans handling sub-system Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 24/26] UBIFS: add header files Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 25/26] UBIFS: add debugging stuff Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 21:00   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  6:20     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:33       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:32         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:00           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:04             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  8:34         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-01  7:43       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-27 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 26/26] UBIFS: include FS to compilation Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  7:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  8:51     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:15       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01  9:25         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:04           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 10:26             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 11:33               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-01 11:56                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-26  9:37                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:10                   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:03                     ` ext Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-04-30  7:04                       ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-26  9:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28  7:09         ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28  9:00           ` ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 11:23             ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 11:39               ` ext ext Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-28 12:25                 ` Adrian Hunter
2008-04-28 13:02                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-03-27 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Josh Boyer
2008-03-28  6:17   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-28  6:45 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 12:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-03-31 12:47   ` Adrian Hunter
2008-03-31 13:20     ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 14:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-03-31 17:17         ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 20:49           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-31 21:21             ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  6:00               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:26       ` UBIFS vs Logfs (was [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system) Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:28         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  5:56         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:25           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:39             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 10:51               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 11:17                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01  9:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-01  9:46           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-01 11:16             ` Jörn Engel
2008-03-31 13:40   ` [RFC PATCH] UBIFS - new flash file system Jörn Engel
2008-04-01 21:01 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-04-03  7:07   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-18  9:05 ` Thomas Gleixner

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