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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Kanoj Sarcar <kanojsarcar@yahoo.com>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
	Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, general@lists.openfabrics.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:58:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080507225801.GK8276@duo.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805071540300.3024@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:44:24PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > 
> > Unfortunately the lock you're talking about would be:
> > 
> > static spinlock_t global_lock = ...
> > 
> > There's no way to make it more granular.
> 
> Right. So what? 
> 
> It's still about a million times faster than what the code does now.

mmu_notifier_register only runs when windows or linux or macosx
boots. Who could ever care of the msec spent in mm_lock compared to
the time it takes to linux to boot?

What you're proposing is to slowdown AIM and certain benchmarks 20% or
more for all users, just so you save at most 1msec to start a VM.

> Rewrite the code, or not. I don't care. I'll very happily not merge crap 
> for the rest of my life.

If you want the global lock I'll do it no problem, I just think it's
obviously inferior solution for 99% of users out there (including kvm
users that will also have to take that lock while kvm userland runs).

In my view the most we should do in this area is to reduce further the
max number of locks to take if max_map_count already isn't enough.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-07 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-07 14:35 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v16 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 01 of 11] mmu-notifier-core Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 20:02   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:05   ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 20:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:58       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31             ` [ofa-general] " Roland Dreier
2008-05-07 22:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 02 of 11] get_task_mm Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 15:59   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 16:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 03 of 11] invalidate_page outside PT lock Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:39   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 17:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 04 of 11] free-pgtables Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:41   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 05 of 11] unmap vmas tlb flushing Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 17:46   ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 06 of 11] rwsem contended Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 07 of 11] i_mmap_rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 20:56   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 21:26     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 21:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:22         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:31           ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 22:44             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 22:59               ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-07 23:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  0:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:52                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:56                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:57                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:24                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  2:32                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 23:39                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  1:12                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  1:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  3:10                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-08  3:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  4:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  5:20                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  5:27                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:30                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-08  5:49                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08 15:03                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 16:11                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08 22:01                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 18:37                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:55                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-09 19:04                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-08  1:26                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:28               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-07 23:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-08  1:34                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-13 12:14                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14  5:43                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-14  6:06                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 13:15                         ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 22:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-07 22:58             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-05-07 23:02               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 23:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:38         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-08  0:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-13 12:06           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-13 15:32             ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14  4:11               ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 11:26                 ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 15:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 16:22                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-14 16:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-14 17:57                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-17  1:38                         ` mm notifier: Notifications when pages are unmapped Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15  7:57                   ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Nick Piggin
2008-05-15 11:01                     ` Robin Holt
2008-05-15 11:12                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 17:33                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:52                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-16 11:23                         ` Robin Holt
2008-05-16 11:50                           ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20  5:31                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 10:01                               ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 10:50                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:05                                   ` Robin Holt
2008-05-20 11:14                                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-20 11:26                                       ` Robin Holt
2008-05-07 22:42       ` Jack Steiner
2008-05-07 14:35 ` [PATCH 09 of 11] mm_lock-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 10 of 11] export zap_page_range for XPMEM Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-07 14:36 ` [PATCH 11 of 11] mmap sems Andrea Arcangeli
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-02 15:05 [PATCH 00 of 11] mmu notifier #v15 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-02 15:05 ` [PATCH 08 of 11] anon-vma-rwsem Andrea Arcangeli

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