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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	ak@linux.intel.com, tiwai@suse.de,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 72/79] sysdev: Pass the attribute to the low level sysdev show/store function
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:03:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080723090310.GA13534@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080723042218.GA6784@suse.de>


* Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 01:04:35PM +1000, Stephen Rothwell wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> > 
> > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:19:19 -0700 Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
[...]
> > > * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This wrecks use-sysdev_class-in-schedc.patch (below), which I 
> > > > merged a week ago and will now drop.
> > > >
> > > > Why did this patch from Andi just turn up in linux-next now, 
> > > > halfway through the merge window?  It has a commit date of July 
> > > > 1 yet it has never before been sighted in linux-next.
[...]
> > >
> > > Andi any thoughts?
> > 
> > The patch
> > (sysdev-pass-the-attribute-to-the-low-level-sysdev-show-store-function.patch)
> > has existed in the driver-core part of linux-next since July 4, but the
> > kernel/sched.c part only got added yesterday.
> 
> That came from the updated version that Andi sent me to fix the 
> sparc64 build problems the original version had.
> 
> Stephen, thanks for diging this out.

ok, lemme do a bit of merge window flaming here, in defense of Andrew.

This commit history:

  commit 4a0b2b4dbe1335b8b9886ba3dc85a145d5d938ed
  Author:     Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
  AuthorDate: Tue Jul 1 18:48:41 2008 +0200
  Commit:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
  CommitDate: Mon Jul 21 21:55:02 2008 -0700

    sysdev: Pass the attribute to the low level sysdev show/store function

  [...]

    I converted all users in tree to the new show/store prototype. It's 
    a single huge patch to avoid unbisectable sections.

    Runtime tested: x86-32, x86-64
    Compiled only: ia64, powerpc
    Not compile tested/only grep converted: sh, arm, avr32

covers a relatively trivial patch that we'd normally not notice, but it 
is ... a ... misrepresentation of the true situation on several levels:

1) The changelog. The updated patch Andi sent did not declare the other
   incremental changes (to sched.c) it also included freshly.

2) The date. This patch did not originate on Jul 1 - if Andi sent a 
   material update yesterday it should say Jul 21, not Jul 1.

3) The justification. Huge atomic patches are fine and can indeed be 
   much simpler than a gradual switchover, _iff_ they are done 
   perfectly. If there's any doubt then they are by far not the only 
   option to pursue - we've done finegrained API changeovers for years.

... which all we still wouldnt worry much about (the whole change is 
relatively trivial), if it had been done more carefully without wrecking 
Andrew's workflow in the middle of the merge window.

If every upstream pull - no matter how trivial - caused such work flow 
problems for Andrew (who is sitting at the _end_ of all linux-next stuff 
so is particularly hard hit by last-minute updates - especially if they 
are not append-only) then Andrew would never be able to get his stuff 
from -mm into -git.

If Andi cannot be bothered to do a proper finegrained workflow _or_ at 
least make it damned sure that he does not mess up other people's work 
via one huge patch modified on the last day (instead of at least sending 
an incremental patch for the last delta) then he should not be doing 
such complex changes.

Grmbl!

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-23  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-22  5:18 [GIT PATCH] driver core patches against 2.6.26 Greg KH
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 01/79] sysfs: add /sys/dev/{char,block} to lookup sysfs path by major:minor Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 02/79] kobject: replace '/' with '!' in name Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  7:12   ` Kari Hurtta
2008-07-22 18:12   ` Ingo Oeser
2008-07-22 20:50     ` Greg KH
2008-07-22 23:25       ` [PATCH] kobject: Replace ALL occurrences of '/' with '!' instead of only the first one Ingo Oeser
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 03/79] debugfs: Add a reference to the debugfs API documentation Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 04/79] Firmware: fix typo in example code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 05/79] device create: block: convert device_create to device_create_drvdata Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 06/79] device create: char: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 07/79] device create: coda: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 08/79] device create: dca: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 09/79] device create: dvb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 10/79] device create: framebuffer: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 11/79] device create: hid: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 12/79] device create: hwmon: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 13/79] device create: i2c: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 14/79] device create: ide: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 15/79] device create: ieee1394: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 16/79] device create: infiniband: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 17/79] device create: isdn: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 18/79] device create: macintosh: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22 22:00   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 19/79] device create: mips: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 20/79] device create: misc: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 21/79] device create: mtd: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 22/79] device create: net: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 23/79] device create: s390: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 24/79] device create: scsi: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 25/79] device create: sound: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 26/79] device create: spi: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 27/79] device create: usb: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 28/79] device create: x86: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 29/79] driver core: remove device_create() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 30/79] device create: convert device_create_drvdata to device_create Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 31/79] Driver Core: add ability for class_for_each_device to start in middle of list Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 32/79] Driver Core: add ability for class_find_device " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 33/79] block: fix compiler warning in genhd.c Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 34/79] block: make printk_partition use the class iterator function Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:18 ` [PATCH 35/79] block: make blk_lookup_devt " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 36/79] block: make /proc/diskstats only build if CONFIG_PROC_FS is enabled Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 37/79] block: make proc files seq_start use the class_find_device() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 38/79] block: move header for /proc/partitions to seq_start Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 39/79] block: make /proc/partitions and /proc/diskstats use class_find_device() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 40/79] infiniband: rename "device" to "ib_device" in cm_device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 41/79] infiniband: make cm_device use a struct device and not a kobject Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 42/79] bluetooth: remove improper bluetooth class symlinks Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 43/79] class: move driver core specific parts to a private structure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 44/79] class: rename "devices" to "class_devices" in internal class structure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 45/79] class: rename "interfaces" to "class_interfaces" " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 46/79] class: rename "subsys" to "class_subsys" " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 47/79] class: rename "sem" to "class_sem" " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 48/79] class: fix docbook comments for class_private structure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 49/79] class: add lockdep infrastructure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 50/79] class: change internal semaphore to a mutex Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 51/79] driver core: remove KOBJ_NAME_LEN define Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 52/79] driver core: remove DEVICE_NAME_SIZE define Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 53/79] driver core: remove DEVICE_ID_SIZE define Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 54/79] driver core: fix a lot of printk usages of bus_id Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 55/79] pnp: add acpi:* modalias entries Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 56/79] UIO: fix UIO Kconfig dependencies Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 57/79] UIO: Add write function to allow irq masking Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 58/79] UIO: add generic UIO platform driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22 11:34   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-07-22 17:13     ` Greg KH
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 59/79] UIO: minor style and comment fixes Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 60/79] kobject: reorder kobject to save space on 64 bit builds Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 61/79] kobject: should use kobject_put() in kset-example Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 62/79] sysdev: fix debugging statements in registration code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 63/79] sysfs: don't call notify_change Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 64/79] uio-howto.tmpl: use standard copyright/legal markings Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 65/79] uio-howto.tmpl: use unique output names Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 66/79] always enable FW_LOADER unless EMBEDDED=y Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 67/79] HOWTO: change email addresses of James in HOWTO Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 68/79] debugfs: Implement debugfs_remove_recursive() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 69/79] sysfs-rules.txt: reword API stability statement Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 70/79] kobject: Transmit return value of call_usermodehelper() to caller Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 71/79] driver core: Suppress sysfs warnings for device_rename() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 72/79] sysdev: Pass the attribute to the low level sysdev show/store function Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22 20:40   ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-22 20:49     ` Greg KH
2008-07-22 21:03       ` Andrew Morton
2008-07-22 21:19         ` Greg KH
2008-07-23  3:04           ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-07-23  4:22             ` Greg KH
2008-07-23  9:03               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-07-23 14:03                 ` Greg KH
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 73/79] sysdev: Add utility functions for simple int/ulong variable sysdev attributes Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 74/79] sysdev: Convert the x86 mce tolerant sysdev attribute to generic attribute Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 75/79] HP iLO driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22 17:11   ` Altobelli, David
2008-07-22 17:16     ` Greg KH
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 76/79] MTD: handle pci_name() being const Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 77/79] 3c59x: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 78/79] sparc64: fix up bus_id changes in sparc core code Greg Kroah-Hartman
2008-07-22  5:19 ` [PATCH 79/79] arm: bus_id -> dev_name() and dev_set_name() conversions Greg Kroah-Hartman

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