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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>,
	Hugh Dickens <hugh@veritas.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86: check for and defend against BIOS memory corruption
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:45:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080829064540.GA26619@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b170af450808282320g27dfa2a9mc0e14e27e215ce96@mail.gmail.com>


* Rafał Miłecki <zajec5@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2008/8/28 Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>:
> > Some BIOSes have been observed to corrupt memory in the low 64k.  This
> > patch does two things:
> >  - Reserves all memory which does not have to be in that area, to
> >   prevent it from being used as general memory by the kernel.  Things
> >   like the SMP trampoline are still in the memory, however.
> >  - Clears the reserved memory so we can observe changes to it.
> >  - Adds a function check_for_bios_corruption() which checks and reports on
> >   memory becoming unexpectedly non-zero.  Currently it's called in the
> >   x86 fault handler, and the powermanagement debug output.
> >
> > RFC: What other places should we check for corruption in?
> >
> > [ Alan, Rafał: could you check you see:
> >   1: corruption messages
> >   2: no crashes
> >  Thanks -J
> > ]
> 
> I was trying my best to crash system with this patch applied and failed :)
> 
> Works great.
> 
> Just wonder if I should expect any printk from
> check_for_bios_corruption? I do not see any:
> 
> zajec@sony:~> dmesg | grep -i corr
> scanning 2 areas for BIOS corruption

that's _very_ weird.

maybe the BIOS expects _zeroes_ somewhere? Do you suddenly see crashes 
if you change this line in Jeremy's patch:

+               memset(__va(addr), 0, size);

to something like:

+               memset(__va(addr), 0x55, size);

If this does not tickle any messages either, then maybe the problem is 
in the identity of the entities we allocate in the first 64K. Is there a 
list of allocations that go there when Jeremy's patch is not applied?

but ... i think with an earlier patch you saw corruption, right? 
Far-fetched idea: maybe it's some CPU erratum during suspend/resume that 
corrupts pagetables if the pagetables are allocated in the first 64K of 
RAM? In that case we should use a bootmem allocation for pagetables that 
give a minimum address of 64K.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-29  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 19:52 [PATCH RFC] x86: check for and defend against BIOS memory corruption Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  1:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-08-29  3:28   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  9:25     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29 10:13       ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 10:06         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29 10:24         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 11:54           ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 12:09             ` Alan Jenkins
2008-08-29 13:21               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 16:30                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29 17:39                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-09-04 19:42                   ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-09-04 20:23                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-04 23:04                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-06 18:09                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-29 14:08           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 14:18       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 20:31     ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-08-30  1:15       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  6:20 ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-08-29  6:45   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-08-29  7:21     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  7:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-29  8:02         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  7:22   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29  8:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-08-29 14:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 17:20     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 11:35     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-08 17:16       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-08 19:14         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-09-08 19:45           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-29 17:02   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-29 17:03   ` H. Peter Anvin

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