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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Kevin Shanahan <kmshanah@ucwb.org.au>
Cc: "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kernel Testers List" <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kevin Shanahan" <kmshanah@flexo.wumi.org.au>,
	"Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:07:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090120130714.GA11048@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090120125652.GA1457@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> 
> * Kevin Shanahan <kmshanah@ucwb.org.au> wrote:
> 
> > > This suggests some sort of KVM-specific problem. Scheduler latencies 
> > > in the seconds that occur under normal load situations are noticed and 
> > > reported quickly - and there are no such open regressions currently.
> > 
> > It at least suggests a problem with interaction between the scheduler 
> > and kvm, otherwise reverting that scheduler patch wouldn't have made the 
> > regression go away.
> 
> the scheduler affects almost everything, so almost by definition a 
> scheduler change can tickle a race or other timing bug in just about any 
> code - and reverting that change in the scheduler can make the bug go 
> away. But yes, it could also be a genuine scheduler bug - that is always a 
> possibility.
> 
> Could you please run a cfs-debug-info.sh session on a CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y 
> and CONFIG_SCHEDSTATS=y kernel, while you are experiencing those 
> latencies:
> 
>   http://people.redhat.com/mingo/cfs-scheduler/tools/cfs-debug-info.sh
> 
> and post that (relatively large) somewhere, or send it as a reply after 
> bzip2 -9 compressing it? It will include a lot of information about the 
> delays your tasks are experiencing.

Another test would be to build the scheduler latency tracer into your 
kernel:

    CONFIG_SCHED_TRACER=y

And enable it via:

    echo wakeup > /debug/tracing/current_tracer

and you should be seeing the worst-case scheduling latency traces in 
/debug/tracing/trace, and the largest observed latency will be in 
/debug/tracing/tracing_max_latency [in microseconds].

You can reset the max-latency (and thus restart tracing) via:

    echo 0 > /debug/tracing/tracing_max_latency

Latencies up to 100 microseconds are ok. If you see 10 seconds delays 
there (values of 10,000,000 or more) then it's probably a scheduler bug.

Please reproduce the latency under KVM and send us the trace. The trace 
file will be a lot more verbose and a lot more verbose if you also enable 
the function tracer (FUNCTION_TRACER, DYNAMIC_FTRACE and 
FUNCTION_GRAPH_TRACER).

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-20 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-19 21:41 2.6.29-rc2-git1: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:41 ` [Bug #11849] default IRQ affinity change in v2.6.27 (breaking several SMP PPC based systems) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12061] snd_hda_intel: power_save: sound cracks on powerdown Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12208] uml is very slow on 2.6.28 host Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-26 11:35   ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12160] networking oops after resume from s2ram (2.6.28-rc6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12159] 2.6.28-rc6-git1 -- No sound produced from Intel HDA ALSA driver Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12263] Sata soft reset filling log Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12260] Regression due to commit 2b80848e3818fb1c (p54usb: support LM87 firmwares) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20 22:11   ` [PATCH -stable] p54usb: fix traffic stalls / packet drop Christian Lamparter
2009-01-20 22:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20 22:39     ` Greg KH
2009-01-20 23:56       ` John W. Linville
2009-01-21 14:03         ` Christian Lamparter
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12224] journal activity on inactive partition causes inactive harddrive spinup Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20 13:03   ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12209] oldish top core dumps (in its meminfo() function) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12265] FPU emulation broken in 2.6.28-rc8 ? Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12264] i915: switching from kwin in opengl mode to a VT then back to x11, x11 freezes Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20 18:13   ` Caleb Cushing
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12337] ~100 extra wakeups reported by powertop Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  9:38   ` Alberto Gonzalez
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12391] Processor does not go below C2 state until usb.autosuspend is enabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-27 10:27   ` Pavel Machek
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12395] 2.6.28-rc9: oprofile regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12393] debugging in dosemu causes lots of 'scheduling while atomic' Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  9:58   ` Michal Suchanek
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12396] hwinfo problem since 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-26 14:00   ` Beschorner Daniel
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12404] Oops in 2.6.28-rc9 and -rc8 -- mtrr issues / e1000e Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12403] TTY problem on linux-2.6.28-rc7 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12401] 2.6.28 regression: xbacklight broken on ThinkPad X61s Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  7:30   ` Tino Keitel
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12406] 2.6.28 thinks that my PS/2 mouse is a touchpad Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  1:45   ` Arjan Opmeer
2009-01-20  9:19     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-01-22  6:29       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12407] Kernel 2.6.28 regression: Hang after hibernate Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12408] Funny problem with 2.6.28: Kernel stalls Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12405] oops in __bounce_end_io_read under kvm Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12409] NULL pointer dereference at get_stats() Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-21 16:18   ` Frederik Deweerdt
2009-01-24  0:39     ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-02-07  2:34     ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-02-09 11:19       ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-02-11 22:54         ` Alok Kataria
2009-02-11 23:02           ` Alok Kataria
2009-02-13 11:54       ` Tetsuo Handa
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  0:12   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-20 11:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 12:37       ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 12:42       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-20 12:56         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 13:07           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-20 14:59             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-20 15:04               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 17:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-20 18:39                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 17:47               ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 14:25                 ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-21 14:34                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 14:51                     ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-21 14:59                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 15:13                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-22  1:48                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-21 15:10                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-21 15:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-22 19:57                       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-22 20:31                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26  9:55                       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-26 11:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-26 14:38                           ` [RFC][PATCH] ftrace: function graph trace context switches Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-26 15:39                             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-26 15:41                             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-16 17:57                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-26 15:00                           ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 14:23           ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-20 14:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 15:51               ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-20 16:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 16:19                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-20 14:46             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-20 13:04         ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 17:54           ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-01-20 18:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12411] 2.6.28: BUG in r8169 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12426] TMDC Joystick no longer works in kernel 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-21  0:48   ` Andrew S. Johnson
2009-01-22 13:34     ` Jiri Kosina
2009-01-23  2:06       ` Andrew S. Johnson
2009-01-26 11:49         ` Jiri Kosina
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12483] Reference to inexistent struct dmi_device_id breaks the build Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-20  8:15   ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-19 21:45 ` [Bug #12500] r8169: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 (r8169): transmit timed out Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-22 16:43 ` 2.6.29-rc2-git1: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Jörg-Volker Peetz
2009-01-24 13:25 ` Rolf Eike Beer
2009-02-04 10:55 2.6.29-rc3-git6: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-04 10:58 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-05 19:35   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-02-05 22:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-14 20:48 2.6.29-rc5: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-14 20:50 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 22:00 2.6.29-rc6: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 22:03 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24  0:59   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-02-24  1:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 12:09     ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-24 22:11       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-03 19:34 2.6.29-rc6-git7: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 19:41 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-04  3:08   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-08 10:04     ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-14 19:11 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 19:20 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-15  9:03   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-15  9:18     ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-15  9:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-15  9:56         ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-15 10:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-15 10:13             ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-16  9:49     ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-16 12:46       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-16 20:07         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-16 22:55           ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-18  0:20             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-18  1:16               ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-18  2:24                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-18 21:24                 ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-21  5:00                   ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-21 14:08                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-24 11:44                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-24 11:47                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-25 23:40                       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-25 23:48                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-26 20:22                       ` Kevin Shanahan
2009-03-21 17:01 2.6.29-rc8-git5: Reported regressions 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-21 17:07 ` [Bug #12465] KVM guests stalling on 2.6.28 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-21 19:50   ` Ingo Molnar

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