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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@ioremap.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jarkao2@gmail.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, w@1wt.eu,
	dada1@cosmosbay.com, ben@zeus.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tcp: splice as many packets as possible at once
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:23:46 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902042023.47916.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090204080851.GA10445@ioremap.net>

On Wednesday 04 February 2009 19:08:51 Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 04:46:09PM -0800, David Miller (davem@davemloft.net) 
wrote:
> > > NTA tried to solve this by not allowing to free the data allocated on
> > > the different CPU, contrary to what SLAB does. Modulo cache coherency
> > > improvements,
> >
> > This could kill performance on NUMA systems if we are not careful.
> >
> > If we ever consider NTA seriously, these issues would need to
> > be performance tested.
>
> Quite contrary I think. Memory is allocated and freed on the same CPU,
> which means on the same memory domain, closest to the CPU in question.
>
> I did not test NUMA though, but NTA performance on the usual CPU (it is
> 2.5 years old already :) was noticebly good.

I had a quick look at NTA... I didn't understand much of it yet, but
the remote freeing scheme is kind of like what I did for slqb. The
freeing CPU queues objects back to the CPU that allocated them, which
eventually checks the queue and frees them itself.

I don't know how much cache coherency gains you get from this -- in
most slab allocations, I think the object tends to be cache on on the
CPU that frees it. I'm doing it mainly to try avoid locking... I guess
that makes for cache coherency benefit itself.

If NTA does significantly better than slab allocator, I would be quite
interested. It might be something that we can learn from and use in
the general slab allocator (or maybe something more network specific
that NTA does).


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-04  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-08 17:30 [PATCH] tcp: splice as many packets as possible at once Willy Tarreau
2009-01-08 19:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-08 22:03   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-08 21:50 ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-08 21:55   ` David Miller
2009-01-08 22:20     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-13 23:08       ` David Miller
2009-01-09  6:47     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09  7:04       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09  7:28         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09  7:42           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-13 23:27           ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:35             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 15:42       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 17:57         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 18:54         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 20:51           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 21:24             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:02               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:09                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:07               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:12                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:17                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:42                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-09 22:50                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 23:01                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-09 23:06                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-10  7:40                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 12:58                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-11 13:14                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 13:35                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-11 16:00                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 16:05                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:07                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:13                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:16                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:22                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:37                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-14  3:51                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  4:25                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-14  7:27                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-14  8:26                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  8:53                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14  9:29                                                     ` David Miller
2009-01-14  9:42                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 10:06                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-14 10:47                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:29                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14 11:40                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:45                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14  9:54                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 10:01                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-14 12:06                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 12:15                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:28                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:03                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:19                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:19                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:26                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:32                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:34                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:42                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:44                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:54                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-01-19  0:42                                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  3:08                                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-19  3:27                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:14                                                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  6:19                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:45                                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19 10:19                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-19 20:59                                                                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-19 21:24                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-25 21:03                                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-26  7:59                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26  8:12                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  8:40                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-19  3:28                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:11                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-24 21:23                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-20 12:01                                                                         ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-20 12:11                                                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 13:43                                                                             ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-20 14:06                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-16  6:51                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-19  6:08                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:16                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-01-19 10:20                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-20  8:37                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20  9:33                                                               ` [PATCH v2] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 10:00                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 10:20                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 10:31                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 11:01                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 17:16                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-21  9:54                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-22  9:04                                                                           ` [PATCH v3] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26  5:22                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-27  7:11                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27  7:54                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 10:09                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27 10:35                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 10:57                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 11:48                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27 12:16                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 12:31                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 17:06                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-28  8:10                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-01  8:41                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-01-26  8:20                                                                       ` [PATCH v2] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26 21:21                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27  6:10                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-27  7:40                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-30 21:42                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-30 21:59                                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-30 22:03                                                                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-30 22:13                                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-30 22:15                                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-30 22:16                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-02  8:08                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-02  8:18                                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-02-02  8:43                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03  7:50                                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-02-03  9:41                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 11:10                                                                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 11:24                                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 11:49                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 11:53                                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:07                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:12                                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:18                                                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:25                                                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-03 12:28                                                                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-04  0:47                                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-02-04  6:19                                                                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  8:12                                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  8:54                                                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  8:59                                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-04  9:01                                                                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-02-04  9:12                                                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  9:15                                                                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-02-04 19:19                                                                                                                           ` Roland Dreier
2009-02-04 19:28                                                                                                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04 19:48                                                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-05  8:32                                                                                                                           ` Bill Fink
2009-02-04  9:12                                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-03 12:27                                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 13:05                                                                                                   ` david
2009-02-03 12:12                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:18                                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:30                                                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:33                                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:33                                                                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04  0:46                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-04  9:41                                                                                                   ` Benny Amorsen
2009-02-04 12:01                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:36                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 13:06                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 13:25                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 14:20                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  0:46                                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-02-04  8:08                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  9:23                                                                                                   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-02-04  7:56                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  7:52                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-02-06  8:09                                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06  9:10                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  9:17                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-06  9:42                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  9:49                                                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-02-06  9:23                                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06  9:51                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 10:28                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06 10:58                                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 11:10                                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-06 11:47                                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 18:59                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 11:38                                                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-27 18:42                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:32                                                           ` [PATCH] " Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:35                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:51                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  1:24                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-09 22:45                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:53                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 23:34                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-13  5:45                           ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:05                           ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:31         ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:26       ` David Miller

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