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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, zippel@linux-m68k.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing/markers: make markers select tracepoints
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:31:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090220173107.GH5732@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090220172241.GF24538@elte.hu>

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 06:22:41PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > > This is what happens on the following build error:
> > > 
> > > kernel/built-in.o: In function `marker_update_probe_range':
> > > (.text+0x52f64): undefined reference to `tracepoint_probe_register_noupdate'
> > > kernel/built-in.o: In function `marker_update_probe_range':
> > > (.text+0x52f74): undefined reference to `tracepoint_probe_unregister_noupdate'
> > > kernel/built-in.o: In function `marker_update_probe_range':
> > > (.text+0x52fb9): undefined reference to `tracepoint_probe_unregister_noupdate'
> > > kernel/built-in.o: In function `marker_update_probes':
> > > marker.c:(.text+0x530ba): undefined reference to `tracepoint_probe_update_all'
> > > 
> > > CONFIG_KVM_TRACE will select CONFIG_MARKER, but the latter 
> > > depends on CONFIG_TRACEPOINTS which will not be selected.
> > > 
> > > A temporary fix is to make CONFIG_MARKER select 
> > > CONFIG_TRACEPOINTS, though it doesn't fix the source KConfig 
> > > dependency handling problem.
> > > 
> > > Reported-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> > > Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  init/Kconfig |    2 +-
> > >  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
> > > index b6400a5..a93f957 100644
> > > --- a/init/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/init/Kconfig
> > > @@ -975,7 +975,7 @@ config TRACEPOINTS
> > >  
> > >  config MARKERS
> > >  	bool "Activate markers"
> > > -	depends on TRACEPOINTS
> > > +	select TRACEPOINTS
> > >  	help
> > >  	  Place an empty function call at each marker site. Can be
> > >  	  dynamically changed for a probe function.
> > 
> > but using "select" instead of "depends on" just causes the 
> > kind of problem that you described, whereas using "depends on" 
> > does follow dependency chains.
> 
> Well, as long as the secondary selects are 'expanded' along the 
> line of dependencies, it should still be fine. With an 
> increasing number of dependencies it quickly becomes ugly 
> though. This might be one of the cases where it works.
> 
> Eventually we should eliminate markers, their uses can either be 
> converted to new-style tracepoints, or to ftrace_printk().
> 
> 	Ingo

ftrace_printk adds more overhead if not used since it inconditionally
send the trace, unless the related TRACE_ITER_PRINTK flag on ftrace is unset.

I don't know how markers work, but the documentation describes that a single branch
check is done in case the probe is disabled.

With ftrace_printk, even if TRACE_ITER_PRINTK is unset, this is still
one call and one branch check. So for hot callsite it's unappropriate.

IMHO, tracepoints are more suited to replace markers if they have to.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-20 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-20 16:34 [PATCH] tracing/markers: make markers select tracepoints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-20 16:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-02-20 17:20   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-20 17:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 17:29     ` Randy Dunlap
2009-02-20 17:31     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-02-20 17:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 18:56         ` Jason Baron
2009-02-21  3:15         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-21 22:04         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-22 17:13           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-22 17:38             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-23 10:13         ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-22  3:23     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-22 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-22 16:04         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-22 19:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  2:47             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-02-23  8:52               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-22 11:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-22 12:08       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-22 12:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-22 12:24           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-23 11:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 15:44               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-23 16:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 17:10                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-23 17:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 13:01                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-02-23 17:31                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-23 18:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-23 22:16                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 22:41                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-02-24  8:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23  0:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-21  5:24   ` [PATCH][RFC] check for select dependency errors on config load Steven Rostedt
2009-02-21  5:58     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  6:08     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  6:20       ` Randy Dunlap
2009-02-21 20:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-21 20:46           ` [PATCH v2] kconfig: " Steven Rostedt
2009-02-21 20:48             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-21 21:51             ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-02-21 21:53               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-02-22 16:23     ` [PATCH][RFC] " Ingo Molnar

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