From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752638Ab0AUGFh (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:05:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751423Ab0AUGFg (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:05:36 -0500 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:45384 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750954Ab0AUGFf (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:05:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:05:53 -0800 From: Arjan van de Ven To: Kay Sievers Cc: Greg KH , linux-kernel Subject: Re: Driver-Core: devtmpfs - remove EXPERIMENTAL and enable it by default Message-ID: <20100120220553.66af4fd7@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1263505677.2074.2.camel@yio.site> <20100115065638.005ac690@infradead.org> <20100115180341.GA12146@kroah.com> <20100117065803.6e5e089e@infradead.org> Organization: Intel X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by casper.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:53:49 +0100 Kay Sievers wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 15:58, Arjan van de Ven > wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:03:41 -0800 > > Greg KH wrote: > >> > removing experimental is fine... but setting it by default is a > >> > bit over the top and very inconsistent with how the 'default' > >> > option is used. > >> > >> Why? > > > > because the convention is that we use "default y" only for those > > things that used to be on, and are now turned into a config option. > > Oh, I never heard of such a convention. Sure, we can remove that "y", > if this is the way it should be used, not be used. For example in (this is just the first one google found, there's been a bunch of discussion at various times) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/706458 Linus was rather explicit: The rule of thumb should be: NO NEW FEATURES SHOULD _EVER_ DEFAULT TO 'ON'! -- Arjan van de Ven Intel Open Source Technology Centre For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit http://www.lesswatts.org