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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Separate lock events with types
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:44:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100406094451.GC5147@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1270542366.1597.720.camel@laptop>

On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:26:06AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 00:33 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > So if we store the lock type in the lockdep_map, we can just dump
> > the type on lock class initialization:
> > 
> > - on register_lock_class
> > - on event injection to catchup with lock that have already registered
> > 
> > That's what does my tree perf/inject (minus the lock type), but this
> > all require a redesign, in both ftrace and perf sides.
> > 
> 
> Right, and I don't like to bloat dep_map for no reason. I still think
> all this lock type stuff is a waste of time.


Again, it makes no sense to mix up reports of spinlocks, rwlocks, mutexes
or whatever together in the same latency report.

I agree with you that such report makes no sense if you don't look at
the code and then find the nature of the locks on the deeper overview.

But the first overview is going to be unhelpful at best if you have
everything in the same linear report.

You'll naturally find the mutexes first reporting the worst latencies,
then rwsem, then the spinlocks, then the read rwlocks (read) at the end
of the list (depending on the cases).

And yet their latency intervals have utter different meanings. You can't
provide a taste report that mixes beers and wines qualities based on the
same magnitudes.

I really believe perf lock is going to suck at best without this.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-06  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-16  3:28 [PATCH 1/2] perf: Add util/include/linuxhash.h to include hash.h of kernel Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-16  3:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf lock: Fix output of tracing lock events Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-16  8:19   ` [tip:perf/lock] " tip-bot for Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-17  8:50   ` [PATCH 2/2] " Ingo Molnar
2009-12-17  9:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 10:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-17 10:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 10:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-26 13:43     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-28 10:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-31 13:24         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:38           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 0/5] lockdep: Add information of file and line to lockdep_map Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-13  9:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-13 10:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-16 13:01                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-18  7:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-26  5:56                     ` [PATCH] Add type of locks to lock trace events Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-28 10:21                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 17:29                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-01-29 17:41                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-29 22:12                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-02-24  9:02                               ` [PATCH] Separate lock events with types Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-26 23:33                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-05 10:37                                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-04-06  8:26                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-06  9:44                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 1/5] lockdep: Add file and line to initialize sequence of spin and rw lock Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 2/5] lockdep: Add file and line to initialize sequence of rwsem Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 3/5] " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 4/5] lockdep: Add file and line to initialize sequence of mutex Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-07 10:39             ` [PATCH 5/5] lockdep: Fix the way to initialize class_mutex for information of file and line Hitoshi Mitake
2010-01-13 10:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-01-13 23:17                 ` Greg KH
2010-01-13 23:19                   ` Greg KH
2010-01-16 12:55                     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-12-16  8:18 ` [tip:perf/lock] perf: Add util/include/linuxhash.h to include hash.h of kernel tip-bot for Hitoshi Mitake

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