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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 50/52] mm: implement per-zone shrinker
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:03:53 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100630120353.GA21358@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100630062858.GE24712@dastard>

Wow, some reviewing! Thanks Dave.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 04:28:58PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:03:02PM +1000, npiggin@suse.de wrote:
> >  9 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 106 deletions(-)
> 
> The diffstat doesn't match the patch ;)

Bah, sorry.


> > Index: linux-2.6/include/linux/mm.h
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6.orig/include/linux/mm.h
> > +++ linux-2.6/include/linux/mm.h
> > @@ -999,16 +999,19 @@ static inline void sync_mm_rss(struct ta
> >   * querying the cache size, so a fastpath for that case is appropriate.
> >   */
> >  struct shrinker {
> > -	int (*shrink)(int nr_to_scan, gfp_t gfp_mask);
> > -	int seeks;	/* seeks to recreate an obj */
> > -
> > +	int (*shrink)(struct zone *zone, unsigned long scanned, unsigned long total,
> > +					unsigned long global, gfp_t gfp_mask);
> 
> Can we add the shrinker structure to taht callback, too, so that we
> can get away from needing global context for the shrinker?

I was planning to merge this on top of your shrinker change (which I
like how the locking / refcounting worked out). So I was just going to
leave that part for you :)


> > +unsigned long shrinker_do_scan(unsigned long *dst, unsigned long batch)
> > +{
> > +	unsigned long nr = ACCESS_ONCE(*dst);
> 
> What's the point of ACCESS_ONCE() here?
> 
> /me gets most of the way into the patch
> 
> Oh, it's because you are using static variables for nr_to_scan and
> hence when concurrent shrinkers are running they are all
> incrementing and decrementing the same variable. That doesn't sound
> like a good idea to me - concurrent shrinkers are much more likely
> with per-zone shrinker callouts. It seems to me that a reclaim
> thread could be kept in a shrinker long after it has run it's
> scan count if new shrinker calls from a different reclaim context
> occur before the first has finished....

I don't think parallelism will be much changed. The existing shrinker
didn't provide any serialisation. It likewise did not serialise any
updates to shrinker->nr accumulator (reclaim is a crappy heuristic
anyway so it apparently doesn't matter too much that it is racy). So
a lot of your criticism of racy access to the accumulators isn't really
inherent to this patch

(where it's easy, I did put them under locks, but I didn't go out of my
way -- a subsequent patch could do that if we really wanted)

 
> As a further question - why do some shrinkerѕ get converted to a
> single global nr_to_scan, and others get converted to a private
> nr_to_scan? Shouldn't they all use the same method? The static
> variable method looks to me to be full of races - concurrent callers
> to shrinker_add_scan() does not look at all thread safe to me.

Hmm, they should all have their own nr_to_scan.

 
> > +	if (nr < batch)
> > +		return 0;
> 
> Why wouldn't we return nr here to drain the remaining objects?

I was thinking, because it's not worth taking locks for a small
number of objects.

> Doesn't this mean we can't shrink caches that have a scan count of
> less than SHRINK_BATCH?

No, they just accumulate slowly until hitting the batch size.

 
> > -			count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan);
> > -			total_scan -= this_scan;
> > -
> > -			cond_resched();
> 
> Removing this means we need cond_resched() in all shrinker loops now
> to maintain the same latencies as we currently have. I note that
> you've done this for most of the shrinkers, but the documentation
> needs to be updated to mention this...

That's true, yes.


> > -		}
> > -
> > -		shrinker->nr += total_scan;
> 
> And dropping this means we do not carry over the remainder of the
> previous scan into the next scan. This means we could be scanning a
> lot less with this new code.

We do because they accumulate to static variables. It's effectively
the same as accumulating to shrinker->nr, but it allows the per-zone
patches to change to accumulate to per-zone counters.


> > +again:
> > +	nr = 0;
> > +	for_each_zone(zone)
> > +		nr += shrink_slab(zone, 1, 1, 1, GFP_KERNEL);
> > +	if (nr >= 10)
> > +		goto again;
> 
> 	do {
> 		nr = 0;
> 		for_each_zone(zone)
> 			nr += shrink_slab(zone, 1, 1, 1, GFP_KERNEL);
> 	} while (nr >= 10);

OK.


> > @@ -1705,6 +1708,23 @@ static void shrink_zone(int priority, st
> >  	if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc) && nr_swap_pages > 0)
> >  		shrink_active_list(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, zone, sc, priority, 0);
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Don't shrink slabs when reclaiming memory from
> > +	 * over limit cgroups
> > +	 */
> > +	if (scanning_global_lru(sc)) {
> > +		struct reclaim_state *reclaim_state = current->reclaim_state;
> > +
> > +		shrink_slab(zone, sc->nr_scanned - nr_scanned,
> > +			lru_pages, global_lru_pages, sc->gfp_mask);
> > +		if (reclaim_state) {
> > +			nr_reclaimed += reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab;
> > +			reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab = 0;
> > +		}
> > +	}
> 
> So effectively we are going to be calling shrink_slab() once per
> zone instead of once per priority loop, right? That means we are

Yes.


> going to be doing a lot more concurrent shrink_slab() calls that the
> current code. Combine that with the removal of residual aggregation,
> I think this will alter the reclaim balance somewhat. Have you tried
> to quantify this?

It will alter reclaim a bit. I don't think it will change the
concurrency too much (per-prio which gets chopped into batch
size calls into shrinker versus per-zone call which the shrinker
chops up itself).

Basically, the number of items to scan should be about the same,
and chopped into the same number of batches. It just depends on
exactly when it gets done.


> > -static int shrink_dcache_memory(int nr, gfp_t gfp_mask)
> > +static int shrink_dcache_memory(struct zone *zone, unsigned long scanned,
> > +		unsigned long total, unsigned long global, gfp_t gfp_mask)
> >  {
> > -	if (nr) {
> > -		if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_FS))
> > -			return -1;
> > -		prune_dcache(nr);
> > -	}
> > -	return (dentry_stat.nr_unused / 100) * sysctl_vfs_cache_pressure;
> > +	prune_dcache(zone, scanned, global, gfp_mask);
> > +	return 0;
> >  }
> 
> I would have thought that putting the shrinker_add_scan/
> shrinker_do_scan loop in shrink_dcache_memory() and leaving
> prune_dcache untouched would have been a better separation.
> I note that this is what you did with prune_icache(), so consistency
> between the two would be good ;)

You're probably right, I'll go back and take a look.

 
> Also, this patch drops the __GFP_FS check from the dcache shrinker -
> not intentional, right?

Right, thanks.

 
> > +again:
> > +	nr = shrinker_do_scan(&nr_to_scan, SHRINK_BATCH);
> > +	if (!nr) {
> >  		spin_unlock(&mb_cache_spinlock);
> > -		goto out;
> > +		return 0;
> >  	}
> > -	while (nr_to_scan-- && !list_empty(&mb_cache_lru_list)) {
> > +	while (!list_empty(&mb_cache_lru_list)) {
> >  		struct mb_cache_entry *ce =
> >  			list_entry(mb_cache_lru_list.next,
> >  				   struct mb_cache_entry, e_lru_list);
> >  		list_move_tail(&ce->e_lru_list, &free_list);
> >  		__mb_cache_entry_unhash(ce);
> > +		cond_resched_lock(&mb_cache_spinlock);
> > +		if (!--nr)
> > +			break;
> >  	}
> >  	spin_unlock(&mb_cache_spinlock);
> >  	list_for_each_safe(l, ltmp, &free_list) {
> >  		__mb_cache_entry_forget(list_entry(l, struct mb_cache_entry,
> >  						   e_lru_list), gfp_mask);
> >  	}
> > -out:
> > -	return (count / 100) * sysctl_vfs_cache_pressure;
> > +	if (!nr) {
> > +		spin_lock(&mb_cache_spinlock);
> > +		goto again;
> > +	}
> 
> Another candidate for a do-while loop.

Maybe. I prefer not to indent so much (then one would argue to put the
body in a seperate function :), but meh)


> > +	nr = ACCESS_ONCE(nr_to_scan);
> > +	nr_to_scan = 0;
> 
> That's not safe for concurrent callers. Both could get nr =
> nr_to_scan rather than nr(1) = nr_to_scan and nr(2) = 0 which I
> think is the intent....

...

> I note that this use of a static scan count is thread safe because
> all the calculations are done under the kvm_lock. THat's three
> different ways the shrinkers implement the same functionality
> now....

...

> That's not thread safe - it's under a read lock. This code really
> needs a shrinker context....

So as I said above, lost updates are not cared about.


> > +	if (!(gfp_mask & __GFP_FS)) {
> > +		up_read(&xfs_mount_list_lock);
> > +		return 0;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +done:
> > +	nr = shrinker_do_scan(&nr_to_scan, SHRINK_BATCH);
> > +	if (!nr) {
> > +		up_read(&xfs_mount_list_lock);
> > +		return 0;
> > +	}
> > +	list_for_each_entry(mp, &xfs_mount_list, m_mplist) {
> > +		xfs_inode_ag_iterator(mp, xfs_reclaim_inode, 0,
> > +				XFS_ICI_RECLAIM_TAG, 1, &nr);
> > +		if (nr <= 0)
> > +			goto done;
> > +	}
> 
> That's missing conditional reschedules....

Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-30 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-24  3:02 [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 01/52] kernel: add bl_list npiggin
2010-06-24  6:04   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-24 14:42     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:01       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-28 21:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29  6:30     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 02/52] fs: fix superblock iteration race npiggin
2010-06-29 13:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-29 14:56     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:41         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:58             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 20:04               ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-29 20:14                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 20:38                   ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30  7:13                     ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 12:51               ` Al Viro
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 03/52] fs: fs_struct rwlock to spinlock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 04/52] fs: cleanup files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 05/52] lglock: introduce special lglock and brlock spin locks npiggin
2010-06-24 18:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25  6:22     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25  9:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 10:11         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 06/52] fs: scale files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:00     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 07/52] fs: brlock vfsmount_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 08/52] fs: scale mntget/mntput npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 09/52] fs: dcache scale hash npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 10/52] fs: dcache scale lru npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 11/52] fs: dcache scale nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 12/52] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 13/52] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 14/52] fs: dcache scale subdirs npiggin
2010-06-24  7:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24  9:50   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:53     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 15/52] fs: dcache scale inode alias list npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 16/52] fs: dcache RCU for multi-step operaitons npiggin
2010-06-24  7:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:03     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 17:22       ` john stultz
2010-06-24 17:26   ` john stultz
2010-06-25  6:45     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 17/52] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 18/52] fs: dcache reduce dput locking npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 19/52] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 20/52] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 21/52] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 22/52] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 23/52] fs: dcache percpu nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 24/52] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking npiggin
2010-06-24  8:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:07     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 16:05         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:41           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-28 21:50   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-07 14:35     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 25/52] fs: dcache DCACHE_REFERENCED improve npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 26/52] fs: icache lock s_inodes list npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 27/52] fs: icache lock inode hash npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 28/52] fs: icache lock i_state npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count npiggin
2010-06-30  7:27   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:05     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  2:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01  7:54         ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  9:36           ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 16:21           ` Frank Mayhar
2010-07-03  2:03       ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03  3:41         ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03  4:31           ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03  5:06             ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03  5:18               ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-05 22:41               ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-06  4:34                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-06 10:38                   ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-06 13:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 17:00                     ` Frank Mayhar
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 30/52] fs: icache lock lru/writeback lists npiggin
2010-06-24  8:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:09     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 31/52] fs: icache atomic inodes_stat npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 32/52] fs: icache protect inode state npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 33/52] fs: icache atomic last_ino, iunique lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 34/52] fs: icache remove inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 35/52] fs: icache factor hash lock into functions npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 36/52] fs: icache per-bucket inode hash locks npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 37/52] fs: icache lazy lru npiggin
2010-06-24  9:52   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:59     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30  8:38   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:06     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  2:46       ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01  7:57         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 38/52] fs: icache RCU free inodes npiggin
2010-06-30  8:57   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:07     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 39/52] fs: icache rcu walk for i_sb_list npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 40/52] fs: dcache improve scalability of pseudo filesystems npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 41/52] fs: icache reduce atomics npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 42/52] fs: icache per-cpu last_ino allocator npiggin
2010-06-24  9:48   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:52     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:19       ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:38         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 43/52] fs: icache per-cpu nr_inodes counter npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 44/52] fs: icache per-CPU sb inode lists and locks npiggin
2010-06-30  9:26   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:08     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  3:12       ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01  8:00         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 45/52] fs: icache RCU hash lookups npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 46/52] fs: icache reduce locking npiggin
2010-06-24  3:02 ` [patch 47/52] fs: keep inode with backing-dev npiggin
2010-06-24  3:03 ` [patch 48/52] fs: icache split IO and LRU lists npiggin
2010-06-24  3:03 ` [patch 49/52] fs: icache scale writeback list locking npiggin
2010-06-24  3:03 ` [patch 50/52] mm: implement per-zone shrinker npiggin
2010-06-24 10:06   ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:00     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:27       ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:32         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-30  6:28   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:03     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-06-24  3:03 ` [patch 51/52] fs: per-zone dentry and inode LRU npiggin
2010-06-30 10:09   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:13     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24  3:03 ` [patch 52/52] fs: icache less I_FREEING time npiggin
2010-06-30 10:13   ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:14     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  3:33       ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01  8:06         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25  7:12 ` [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-25  8:05   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 11:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:40   ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01  3:56     ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01  8:20       ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:36       ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 17:23     ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:28       ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-06 17:49       ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-01 17:52       ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-02  4:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-30 17:08   ` Frank Mayhar

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