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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	John stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 09/10] taskstats: Fix exit CPU time accounting
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:11:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100926181127.GA26985@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1285330688.2179.305.camel@holzheu-laptop>

Hi,

On 09/24, Michael Holzheu wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 19:10 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > On 09/23, Michael Holzheu wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently there are code pathes (e.g. for kthreads) where the consumed
> > > CPU time is not accounted to the parents cumulative counters.
> >
> > Could you explain more?
>
> I think one place was "khelper" (kmod.c). It is created with
> kernel_thread() and it exits without having accounted the times with
> sys_wait() to the parent's ctimes

No. Well yes, it is not accounted, but this is not because it is
kthread.

To simplify the discussion, lets talk about utime/cutime only,
and lets forget about the multithreading.

It is very simple, currently linux accounts the exiting task's
utime and adds its to ->cutime _only_ if parent does do_wait().
If parent ignores SIGCHLD, the child reaps itself and it is not
accounted.

I do not know why it was done this way, but I'm afraid we can't
change this historical behaviour.

> Ok, the problem is that I did not consider exiting threads that are no
> thread group leaders. When they exit the ctime of the parent is not
> updated. Instead the time is accumulated in the signal struct.

I think I am a bit confused, but see above. With or without threads
the whole process can exit without accounting.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-26 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-23 13:48 [RFC][PATCH 00/10] taskstats: Enhancements for precise accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:00 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/10] taskstats: Use real microsecond granularity for CPU times Michael Holzheu
2010-10-07  5:08   ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-08 15:08     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-08 16:39       ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/10] taskstats: Separate taskstats commands Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27  9:32   ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-11  7:40   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/10] taskstats: Split fill_pid function Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 17:33   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-27  9:33   ` Balbir Singh
2010-10-11  8:31   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/10] taskstats: Add new taskstats command TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PIDS Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/10] taskstats: Add "/proc/taskstats" Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/10] taskstats: Add thread group ID to taskstats structure Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/10] taskstats: Add per task steal time accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/10] taskstats: Add cumulative CPU time (user, system and steal) Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/10] taskstats: Fix exit CPU time accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 17:10   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-24 12:18     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-26 18:11       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-09-27 13:23         ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27 13:42         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-27 16:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-09-28  7:09             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-29 19:19             ` Roland McGrath
2010-09-30 13:47               ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-05  8:57                 ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-06  9:29                   ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-06 15:26                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-07 15:06                       ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-11 12:37                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-12 13:10                           ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-14 13:47                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-15 14:34                               ` Michael Holzheu
2010-10-19 14:17                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-22 16:53                                   ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-28  8:36           ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28  9:08             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-28  9:23               ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 10:36                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-09-28 10:39                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28  8:21   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-28 16:50     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 14:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/10] taststats: User space with ptop tool Michael Holzheu
2010-09-23 20:11 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/10] taskstats: Enhancements for precise accounting Andrew Morton
2010-09-23 22:11   ` Matt Helsley
2010-09-24 12:39     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-25 18:19     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-09-24  9:10   ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-24 18:50     ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-27  9:18       ` Michael Holzheu
2010-09-27 20:02         ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-28  8:17           ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-27 10:49     ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-24  9:16 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-30  8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-30 13:56   ` Michael Holzheu

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