From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933191Ab0KORtS (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:49:18 -0500 Received: from mtagate3.de.ibm.com ([195.212.17.163]:48744 "EHLO mtagate3.de.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756163Ab0KORtR (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:49:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:49:10 +0100 From: Martin Schwidefsky To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Oleg Nesterov , Michael Holzheu , Shailabh Nagar , Andrew Morton , Venkatesh Pallipadi , Suresh Siddha , Ingo Molnar , John stultz , Thomas Gleixner , Balbir Singh , Heiko Carstens , Roland McGrath , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/7] taskstats: Improve cumulative CPU time accounting Message-ID: <20101115184910.549a828b@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <1289837036.2109.501.camel@laptop> References: <20101111170352.732381138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20101111170815.404670062@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20101113183810.GA9021@redhat.com> <20101115165521.21baac60@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> <1289837036.2109.501.camel@laptop> Organization: IBM Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:03:56 +0100 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:55 +0100, Martin Schwidefsky wrote: > > What we want is a low-overhead tool that precisely shows > > where the cpu spent its time (or didn't because of steal time). The > > granularity target is tenths of microseconds, something that should be > > possible with decent hardware. > > To what purpose? Is that a trick question? Why do we have tools like "top"? Or process accounting? The point is that the quality of the numbers we get right now is rather bad, the overhead of scanning /proc is horrendous and the 10ms granularity is rather coarse. -- blue skies, Martin. "Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.