From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [resend][PATCH 2/4] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable"
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:03:43 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130220221.832B.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011271737110.3764@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
> > > > No irrelevant. Your patch break their environment even though
> > > > they don't use oom_adj explicitly. because their application are using it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The _only_ difference too oom_adj since the rewrite is that it is now
> > > mapped on a linear scale rather than an exponential scale.
> >
> > _only_ mean don't ZERO different. Why do userland application need to rewrite?
> >
>
> Because NOTHING breaks with the new mapping. Eight months later since
> this was initially proposed on linux-mm, you still cannot show a single
> example that depended on the exponential mapping of oom_adj. I'm not
> going to continue responding to your criticism about this point since your
> argument is completely and utterly baseless.
No regression mean no break. Not single nor multiple. see?
>
> > Again, IF you need to [0 .. 1000] range, you can calculate it by your
> > application. current oom score can be get from /proc/pid/oom_score and
> > total memory can be get from /proc/meminfo. You shouldn't have break
> > anything.
> >
>
> That would require the userspace tunable to be adjusted anytime a task's
> mempolicy changes, its nodemask changes, it's cpuset attachment changes,
All situation can be calculated on userland. User process can be know
their bindings.
> its mems change, a memcg limit changes, etc. The only constant is the
> task's priority, and the current oom_score_adj implementation preserves
> that unless explicitly changed later by the user. I completely understand
> that you may not have a use for this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-30 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-25 3:26 [resend][PATCH 1/4] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 3:27 ` [resend][PATCH 2/4] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable" KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 20:40 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-26 13:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 19:37 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-01 7:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01 19:36 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 2:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09 3:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 0:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 9:59 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-09 23:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:55 ` [patch] oom: document obsolete oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-11-15 0:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 10:38 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 5:07 ` [resend][PATCH 2/4] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable" KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-28 1:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-30 13:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-11-30 20:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-25 3:28 ` [resend][PATCH 3/4] move cred_guard_mutex from task_struct to signal_struct KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 17:26 ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-25 17:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-25 17:51 ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-26 13:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 13:18 ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-25 3:29 ` [resend][PATCH 4/4] oom: don't ignore rss in nascent mm KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 11:28 ` pageexec
2010-10-26 7:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 14:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-24 0:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-24 11:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-25 11:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 14:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-25 19:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-29 5:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-29 11:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-29 18:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] exec: more excessive argument size fixes for 2.6.37/stable Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: make argv/envp memory visible to oom-killer Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01 0:12 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 18:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: copy-and-paste the fixes into compat_do_execve() paths Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01 3:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 20:00 ` [PATCH 0/4] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] exec: unify compat_do_execve() code Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01 17:37 ` (No subject header) Milton Miller
2010-12-01 18:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/4 RESEND] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] exec: unify compat_do_execve() code Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-26 12:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-26 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 17:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] exec: introduce conditional_user_ptr_t Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 21:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] exec: unify native/compat code Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 3:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-03 15:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-05 20:30 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] exec: introduce get_user_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] exec: introduce struct user_arg_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-05 21:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 12:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-06 17:01 ` [PATCH v5 " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] exec: introduce get_user_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] exec: introduce struct user_arg_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:03 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] exec: introduce struct conditional_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 3:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 3:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:28 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 3:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:44 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 19:40 ` David Miller
2011-03-02 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 19:54 ` David Miller
2011-02-25 17:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] exec: unexport acct_arg_size() and get_arg_page() Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 18:54 ` [PATCH 0/4 RESEND] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] exec: unexport acct_arg_size() and get_arg_page() Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01 3:09 ` [PATCH 0/4] exec: unify compat/non-compat code KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 0:06 ` [resend][PATCH 4/4] oom: don't ignore rss in nascent mm KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 20:37 ` [resend][PATCH 1/4] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness() David Rientjes
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