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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Jon Nelson <jnelson@jamponi.net>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>, Matt <jackdachef@gmail.com>,
	Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	htd <htd@fancy-poultry.org>, htejun <htejun@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? (was: Re: dm-crypt barrier support is effective)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:37:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101216033718.GM9925@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1291810586-sup-8211@think>

On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 07:20:24AM -0500, Chris Mason wrote:
> Excerpts from Jon Nelson's message of 2010-12-07 22:29:26 -0500:
> > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > Excerpts from Jon Nelson's message of 2010-12-07 15:48:58 -0500:
> > >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >> > Excerpts from Jon Nelson's message of 2010-12-07 15:25:47 -0500:
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > Excerpts from Jon Nelson's message of 2010-12-07 14:34:40 -0500:
> > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> postgresql errors. Typically, header corruption but from the limited
> > >> >> >> >> visibility I've had into this via strace, what I see is zeroed pages
> > >> >> >> >> where there shouldn't be.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > This sounds a lot like a bug higher up than dm-crypt.  Zeros tend to
> > >> >> >> > come from some piece of code explicitly filling a page with zeros, and
> > >> >> >> > that often happens in the corner cases for O_DIRECT and a few other
> > >> >> >> > places in the filesystem.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Have you tried triggering this with a regular block device?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I just tried the whole set of tests, but with /dev/sdb directly (as
> > >> >> >> ext4) without any crypt-y bits.
> > >> >> >> It takes more iterations but out of 6 tests I had one failure: same
> > >> >> >> type of thing, 'invalid page header in block ....'.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I can't guarantee that it is a full-page of zeroes, just what I saw
> > >> >> >> from the (limited) stracing I did.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Fantastic. Now for our usual suspects:
> > 
> > Maybe not so fantastic. I kept testing and had no more failures. At
> > all. After 40+ iterations I gave up.
> > I went back to trying ext4 on a LUKS volume. The 'hit' ratio went to
> > something like 1 in 3, or better.
> > 
> > I will continue to do testing with and without LUKS. I did /not/
> > reboot between tests, but I do start with a fresh postgres database.
> > 
> 
> Once we trigger once without dm-crypt, dm-crypt is off the hook.  Just
> to verify, when you say without luks, you mean without any crypto bits
> in use at all on the filesystems postgres uses?
> 
> Usually the trick to reproducing filesystem corruptions is adding memory
> pressure.  The corruption is probably a bad interaction between reads
> and writes, and we need to make sure the reads actually happen.
> 
> http://oss.oracle.com/~mason/pin_ram.c
> 
> gcc -Wall -o pin_ram pin_ram.c
> 
> pin_ram -m 80%-of-your-ram-in-mb

Implemented in xfstests about 10 years ago:

http://git.kernel.org/?p=fs/xfs/xfstests-dev.git;a=blob;f=src/usemem.c;h=b8794a6b209cebf8dbf312a8ef131e2e54b18d29;hb=HEAD

:P

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-16  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-06 22:16 [PATCH] DM-CRYPT: Scale to multiple CPUs v3 on 2.6.37-rc* ? Matt
2010-11-07 14:30 ` Milan Broz
2010-11-07 17:49   ` Matt
2010-11-07 19:32     ` Matt
2010-11-07 19:45       ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-07 21:39         ` Milan Broz
2010-11-07 23:05           ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-08 14:16             ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2010-11-08 14:58             ` Mike Snitzer
2010-11-08 17:59               ` Chris Mason
2010-11-14 20:59                 ` dm-crypt barrier support is effective (was: Re: DM-CRYPT: Scale to multiple CPUs v3 on 2.6.37-rc* ?) Mike Snitzer
2010-11-14 21:49                   ` Matt
2010-11-14 21:54                     ` dm-crypt barrier support is effective Milan Broz
2010-11-14 23:24                       ` Matt
2010-12-01 16:05                         ` Matt
2010-12-01 16:52                           ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-01 17:35                             ` Matt
2010-12-01 18:24                               ` Milan Broz
2010-12-01 19:34                                 ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-01 20:45                                   ` Milan Broz
2010-12-01 21:23                                     ` hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? (was: Re: dm-crypt barrier support is effective) Mike Snitzer
2010-12-02 21:30                                       ` Matt
2010-12-04 19:18                                       ` Matt
2010-12-04 19:38                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-04 23:47                                           ` Matt
2010-12-07 14:21                                             ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 18:10                                               ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 18:15                                                 ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 18:22                                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-07 18:45                                                   ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 18:52                                                     ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 19:34                                                       ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 20:02                                                         ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 20:25                                                           ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 20:33                                                             ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 20:36                                                               ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 20:41                                                             ` Chris Mason
2010-12-07 20:48                                                               ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 21:02                                                                 ` Chris Mason
2010-12-08  3:29                                                                   ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-08  8:03                                                                     ` hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? Milan Broz
2010-12-08 12:20                                                                     ` hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? (was: Re: dm-crypt barrier support is effective) Chris Mason
2010-12-16  3:37                                                                       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-12-16 12:29                                                                         ` Chris Mason
2010-12-08  3:55                                                               ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-07 19:35                                                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-07 21:01                                                     ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-08  3:37                                                     ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-08 15:26                                                       ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-09 18:01                                                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-09 18:10                                                         ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-09 20:13                                                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-09 20:38                                                             ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-09 23:16                                                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-12-10  1:38                                                                 ` Chris Mason
2010-12-10  1:53                                                                   ` Matt
2010-12-10  2:38                                                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-10  6:52                                                                       ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-10 14:58                                                                         ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-10 16:54                                                                           ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-11  2:14                                                                             ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-12  1:40                                                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-12  2:34                                                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-12  3:16                                                                                 ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-12 10:18                                                                                   ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-12 12:43                                                                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-12 13:11                                                                                       ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-13  2:06                                                                                         ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-13 18:56                                                                                           ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-15 19:15                                                                                             ` Matt
2010-12-15 19:16                                                                                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-12-15 19:25                                                                                                 ` Matt
2010-12-15 19:28                                                                                                   ` Matt
2010-12-10  1:58                                                                   ` Mike Fedyk
2010-12-10  2:00                                                                     ` Chris Mason
2010-12-10  2:05                                                                       ` Jon Nelson
2010-12-04 23:52                                           ` Matt
2010-12-05 10:09                                             ` Heinz Diehl
2010-12-05 10:21                                               ` hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? Milan Broz
2010-12-05 12:49                                                 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-12-05 13:24                                                 ` [dm-devel] " Theodore Tso
2010-12-05 13:44                                                   ` Matt
2010-12-05 14:02                                                     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-05 14:33                                                   ` Heinz Diehl
2010-12-05 20:17                                                     ` Daniel J Blueman
2010-12-06  7:08                                                       ` Heinz Diehl
2010-12-05 20:28                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-12-05 21:15                                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-05 21:42                                                     ` [dm-devel] " Milan Broz
2010-12-06  2:37                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-01-06 15:56                                                 ` Heinz Diehl
2011-01-07 16:45                                                   ` Matt
2010-12-05 13:30                                               ` hunt for 2.6.37 dm-crypt+ext4 corruption? (was: Re: dm-crypt barrier support is effective) Matt
2010-12-05  0:57                                           ` Matt
2010-12-04 20:51                                         ` Heinz Diehl
2010-12-01 19:59                                 ` dm-crypt barrier support is effective Heinz Diehl
2010-11-15  7:25                       ` Heinz Diehl
2010-11-15  8:41                         ` Milan Broz
2010-11-07 20:36       ` [PATCH] DM-CRYPT: Scale to multiple CPUs v3 on 2.6.37-rc* ? Heinz Diehl
2010-11-07 16:03 ` Heinz Diehl

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