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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Michael Buesch <m@bues.ch>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Incorrect uses of get_driver()/put_driver()
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:34:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120109183414.GB1287@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120109182045.GG15083@core.coreip.homeip.net>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 10:20:45AM -0800, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:48:36PM -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:35:09PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > The get_driver() and put_driver() routines in the device core are not
> > > documented well, and what they really do is quite different from what
> > > people might think they do.  In particular, get_driver() does not
> > > prevent a driver from being unregistered or unloaded -- the API which 
> > > comes closest to doing that is try_module_get().
> > > 
> > > In fact, get_driver() and put_driver() are pretty much useless for
> > > normal purposes, and Dmitry and I have been discussing getting rid of
> > > them entirely.  But first we need to make sure that doing so won't mess
> > > anything up.
> > > 
> > > The purpose of this email is to check with the maintainers of the
> > > various drivers that seem to be using these routines in questionable
> > > ways, to make sure nothing will go wrong.  Here are the places we have 
> > > identified:
> > > 
> > > lib/dma-debug.c:173:  drv = get_driver(dev->driver);
> > > lib/dma-debug.c:188:  put_driver(drv);
> > > 
> > > Joerg, these calls don't seem to do anything, as far as I can tell.  
> > > Is there any reason to keep them?
> > > 
> > > drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:596:       if (get_driver(&pdrv->driver)) {
> > > drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:626:               put_driver(&pdrv->driver);
> > > 
> > > Konrad, these calls don't seem to do anything either.
> > > 
> > 
> > Looks like they should be replaced with the try_module_get() equivalant
> > for the 'struct pci_driver'? Is there such one?
> 
> You seem to need stronger guarantees that the driver simply present in
> memory. You need to make sure that the driver you fetched is kept being
> bound to the device for entire duration of pcifront_common_process().

OK, any suggestions?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-09 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-05 16:31 Problems with get_driver() and driver_attach() (and new_id too) Alan Stern
2012-01-05 18:01 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-05 18:55   ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05 20:05     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-05 20:48       ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05 23:17         ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 14:42           ` Alan Stern
2012-01-06 15:42           ` Alan Stern
2012-01-06 20:29       ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09  8:48         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 16:37           ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09 16:50             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 17:01               ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09 17:05             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 17:35             ` Incorrect uses of get_driver()/put_driver() Alan Stern
2012-01-09 17:48               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-01-09 18:20                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 18:34                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2012-01-09 18:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 19:36                       ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09 18:03               ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-09 18:14                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-09 19:48                   ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09 20:07                     ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-09 22:44                       ` Alan Stern
2012-01-09 23:05                         ` Michael Büsch
2012-01-09 18:04               ` Joerg Roedel
2012-01-10  9:05               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-01-10  9:20                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-01-10 10:03                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-01-10 10:18                   ` Sebastian Ott
2012-01-10 10:21                 ` Sebastian Ott
2012-01-10 20:32                   ` Alan Stern

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