From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, keescook@chromium.org,
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Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:18:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120112161806.21a09335@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1326302710-9427-2-git-send-email-wad@chromium.org>
> Filter programs may _only_ cross the execve(2) barrier if last filter
> program was attached by a task with CAP_SYS_ADMIN capabilities in its
> user namespace. Once a task-local filter program is attached from a
> process without privileges, execve will fail. This ensures that only
> privileged parent task can affect its privileged children (e.g., setuid
> binary).
I think this model is wrong. The rest of the policy rules all work on the
basis that dumpable is the decider (the same rules for not dumping, not
tracing, etc). A user should be able to apply filter to their own code
arbitarily. Any setuid app should IMHO lose the trace subject to the usual
uid rules and capability rules. That would seem to be more flexible and
also the path of least surprise.
[plus you can implement non setuid exec entirely in userspace so it's
a rather meaningless distinction you propose]
> be tackled separately via separate patchsets. (And at some point sharing
> BPF JIT code!)
A BPF jit ought to be trivial and would be a big win.
In general I like this approach. It's simple, it's compact and it offers
interesting possibilities for solving some interesting problem spaces,
without the full weight of SELinux, SMACK etc which are still needed for
heavyweight security.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-12 16:20 UTC|newest]
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2012-01-11 17:25 [RFC,PATCH 0/2] dynamic seccomp policies (using BPF filters) Will Drewry
2012-01-11 17:25 ` [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-01-12 8:53 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-01-12 16:54 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 14:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 16:55 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 15:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:08 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 17:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 23:27 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-12 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 22:18 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 23:00 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 16:14 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 16:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:51 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 17:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 18:18 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 18:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 19:08 ` Kyle Moffett
2012-01-12 23:05 ` Eric Paris
2012-01-12 23:33 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 19:40 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 19:42 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 19:46 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 16:59 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 18:03 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 1:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-13 2:44 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-13 6:33 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-12 17:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 16:18 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2012-01-12 17:03 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:11 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-12 17:52 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 1:31 ` James Morris
2012-01-12 16:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:51 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 17:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-13 19:01 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:12 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:30 ` Eric Paris
2012-01-15 3:40 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 1:40 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-16 6:49 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 20:12 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 6:46 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-17 17:37 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 4:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 4:38 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 20:34 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-17 20:42 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 21:09 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 4:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16 20:15 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 16:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 16:56 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 17:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-17 17:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 17:45 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-18 0:56 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? [was: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF] Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 1:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 1:19 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:07 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-18 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 1:50 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 2:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-18 2:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 2:25 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-18 4:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 5:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 6:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 13:12 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:36 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:44 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:52 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 19:58 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 19:41 ` Martin Mares
2012-01-18 19:38 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-19 16:13 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 19:30 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 23:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-20 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 15:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-20 17:56 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 19:45 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:51 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-18 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 0:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-20 21:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-20 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 22:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-20 23:49 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-20 23:55 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 23:58 ` hpanvin@gmail.com
2012-01-23 2:14 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-21 0:07 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-21 0:10 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-21 1:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-23 2:37 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-23 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-24 8:19 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-06 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-06 20:39 ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-06 20:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-19 1:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 2:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-06 8:32 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-06 17:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-07 1:52 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 4:20 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 4:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 6:03 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 14:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 16:00 ` H.J. Lu
2012-02-10 1:09 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 1:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-10 2:29 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 2:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2012-02-10 15:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-10 22:42 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-12 12:07 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-25 19:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-25 20:20 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-25 23:36 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-25 23:32 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 0:40 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 1:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 1:22 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 6:34 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 10:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 10:40 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 11:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 14:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 11:19 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 11:20 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 11:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 14:05 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-27 7:23 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 2:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-02-10 3:37 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 21:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 1:09 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 3:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-26 18:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2017-03-08 23:41 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2017-03-09 4:39 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2017-03-14 2:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2012-01-26 5:57 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 0:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 1:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 8:23 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-26 8:53 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 9:51 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-26 18:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-10 2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 15:04 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? [was: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF] Eric Paris
2012-01-18 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 5:43 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-18 12:12 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 21:13 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-19 0:14 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 8:16 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-19 11:34 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 16:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-19 15:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 17:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 21:09 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-23 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-23 22:23 ` Chris Evans
2012-02-07 11:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 0:29 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 2:31 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 2:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 14:06 ` Martin Mares
2012-01-18 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-19 16:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-20 0:21 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-20 0:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 2:02 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-17 17:06 ` [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-01-17 19:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:02 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-16 20:28 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-11 17:25 ` [RFC,PATCH 2/2] Documentation: prctl/seccomp_filter Will Drewry
2012-01-11 20:03 ` Jonathan Corbet
2012-01-11 20:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-11 23:19 ` [PATCH v2 " Will Drewry
2012-01-12 0:29 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 18:16 ` Randy Dunlap
2012-01-12 17:23 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 13:13 ` [RFC,PATCH " Łukasz Sowa
2012-01-12 17:25 ` Will Drewry
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