From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754646Ab2ALROJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:14:09 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:42169 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754573Ab2ALROD (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:14:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:07:28 +0100 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Mandeep Singh Baines Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , Li Zefan , Tejun Heo , LKML , Containers , Cgroups , KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki , Paul Menage , Andrew Morton , "Paul E. McKenney" Subject: Re: Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking Message-ID: <20120112170728.GA25717@redhat.com> References: <20111221190102.GE13529@google.com> <20111221190817.GI17668@somewhere> <20111221192413.GF13529@google.com> <20111221200422.GJ17668@somewhere> <20111222153004.GA30522@redhat.com> <20120104193614.GF9511@google.com> <20120106152356.GA23995@redhat.com> <20120106182535.GJ9511@google.com> <20120111160730.GA24556@redhat.com> <20120112003102.GB9511@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120112003102.GB9511@google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Mandeep, On 01/11, Mandeep Singh Baines wrote: > > > > > > #define while_each_thread(g, t, o) \ > > > while (t->group_leader == o && (t = next_thread(t)) != g) > > > > > > Where o should have the value of g->group_leader. > > > > I don't understand how this helps... and how this can work even > > ignoring the barriers. > > > > OK, we have the main thream M and the sub-thread T, we are doing > > > > do { > > do_something(t); > > } while_each_thread(M, t, M); > > > > why we can't miss T if it does exec? > > > > So for: > > struct task *M; /* assuming this is passed in to us */ > struct task *L = M->group_leader; L == M > do { > do_something(T); > } while_each_thread(M, T, L); > > Here is my thinking. > > If some thread K does exec, you won't miss it because: > > 1) Ignoring the group_leader check, you'll visit K just by following > next_thread(). That's the case today and is what you except > when iterating over an rcu_list. > 2) (t->group_leader == o) will fail iff t is the exec thread. > Since we test t->group_leader before re-assigning it (t=next_thread()), > the test will fail only after visiting the exec thread. So you'll > visit the exec thread and then terminate the loop. Still can't understand... Lets look at this trivial example again. We start from the main thread M, it is ->group_leader. There is another thread T in this thread group. We are doing OLD = M; t = M; do { do_smth(t); } while (t->group_leader == OLD && ((t = next_thread(t)) != M); The first iteration does do_smth(M). T calls de_thread() and, in particular, it does M->group_leader = T (see "leader->group_leader = tsk" in de_thread). after that t->group_leader == OLD fails. t == M, its group_leader == T. do_smth(T) won't be called. No? Oleg.