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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Yasunori Goto <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Hiroyuki KAMEZAWA <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Motohiro Kosaki <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] TASK_DEAD task is able to be woken up in special condition
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:43:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120125174330.GA23303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1327510290.2614.95.camel@laptop>

On 01/25, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 16:45 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >                 for (;;) {
> > > > >                         tsk->state = TASK_DEAD;
> > > > >                         schedule();
> > > > >                 }
> > > > >
> > > > > __schedule() can't race with ttwu() once it takes rq->lock. If the
> > > > > exiting task is deactivated, finish_task_switch() will see EXIT_DEAD.
> > > >
> > > > TASK_DEAD, right?
> >
> > Yes, but... I simply can't understand what I was thinking about.
> > And probably I missed something again, but I think this can't work.
>
> Oh man, total confusion. :-) Every time I look at this bug I see
> different shadows on the wall.

Same here ;)

And this time I do not understand your reply.

> > Afaics, this can only help to prevent the race with ttwu_remote()
> > doing ttwu_do_wakeup() under rq->lock.
>
> ttwu_do_wakeup() must always be called with rq->lock held.

Yes sure. I meant the code above can't race with p->on_rq == T case.

> > But we still can race with the !p->on_rq case which sets TASK_WAKING.
> > It can do this after finish_task_switch() observes TASK_DEAD and does
> > put_task_struct().
>
> <random scribbling that got erased>
>
> No, see below !p->on_rq isn't possible and thus pi_lock is indeed
> sufficient.

Which pi_lock? __schedule() doesn't take it. Hmm, see below...

> > > I think Yasunori-San's patch isn't
> > > sufficient, note how the p->state = TASK_RUNNING in ttwu_do_wakeup() can
> > > happen outside of p->pi_lock when the task gets queued on a remote cpu.
> >
> > Hmm, really? I am not sure, but I do not trust myself.
> >
> > To simplify, you mean that
> >
> > 	mb();
> > 	unlock_wait(pi_lock);
> >
> > 	tsk->state = TASK_DEAD;
> >
> > can change ->state from TASK_WAKING to TASK_DEAD, right? Is this really
> > possible? ttwu() ensures p->on_rq == F in this case.
>
> Ahhh.. hold on, p->on_rq must be true, since we disabled preemption
> before setting TASK_DEAD, so the thing cannot be scheduled out.

Why? __schedule() checks "preempt_count() & PREEMPT_ACTIVE". And it
should be scheduled out, in general this task struct will be freed soon.

> Does this mean that both Yasunori-San's solution and yours work again?

I think that Yasunori-San's solution should work.

But,

> /me goes in search of a fresh mind.. shees!

Yes! I need the fresh head too. Probably just to realize I was completely
wrong again.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-25 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-22  0:42 [BUG] TASK_DEAD task is able to be woken up in special condition Yasunori Goto
2011-12-22  2:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-22  8:22   ` Yasunori Goto
2011-12-22 20:02     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-23  9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-23 15:41   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-26  8:23     ` Yasunori Goto
2011-12-26 17:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-27  6:48         ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-06 10:22           ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-06 11:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-06 12:01               ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-06 12:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-06 14:12                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-06 14:19                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-07  1:31                     ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-16 11:51                       ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-16 13:38                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-17  8:40                           ` Yasunori Goto
2012-01-17  9:06                             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 15:12                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18  9:42                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-18 14:20                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-24 10:19                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 10:55                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 17:25                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-25 15:45                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-25 16:51                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-25 17:43                                             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-01-26 15:32                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-26 16:26                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-27  8:59                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 10:11                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-26  9:39                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-28 12:03                             ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix ancient race in do_exit() tip-bot for Yasunori Goto
2012-01-28 21:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-29 16:07                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-29 17:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-29 18:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-29 18:59                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-30 16:27                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-06 13:48             ` [BUG] TASK_DEAD task is able to be woken up in special condition Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-28 21:07         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-24 10:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-24 18:01             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-25  6:15               ` Mike Galbraith
2012-01-26 21:24                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-25 10:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-26 20:25             ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix rq->nr_uninterruptible update race tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-27  5:20               ` Rakib Mullick
2012-01-27  8:19                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-27 14:11                   ` Rakib Mullick
2012-01-26 21:21             ` [BUG] TASK_DEAD task is able to be woken up in special condition KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-27  8:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-26  6:52   ` Yasunori Goto

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