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From: Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org" 
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Linus Walleij (linus.walleij@linaro.org)"
	<linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"Grant Likely (grant.likely@secretlab.ca)" 
	<grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Thomas Abraham <thomas.abraham@linaro.org>,
	"kernel@pengutronix.de" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Simon Glass (sjg@chromium.org)" <sjg@chromium.org>,
	"cjb@laptop.org" <cjb@laptop.org>,
	Dong Aisheng-B29396 <B29396@freescale.com>,
	"Sascha Hauer (s.hauer@pengutronix.de)" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Pinmux bindings proposal V2
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:56:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120130015607.GA10470@S2101-09.ap.freescale.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120127170545.GH13504@atomide.com>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 09:05:45AM -0800, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> * Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org> [120126 22:15]:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 06:08:33PM -0800, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > > * Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com> [120126 11:03]:
> > ...
> > > > Second, as I mentioned before, while some of the states are certainly
> > > > PM-related, I don't think all will be, e.g. the case of running an SD
> > > > controller at different clock rates to the SD card, and needing to
> > > > set different pin parameters based on the clock rate. Is runtime PM
> > > > intended cover that kind of thing? The idea here is that the common
> > > > pinctrl binding can allow the driver to require different named states
> > > > for those different clock rate cases.
> > > 
> > > For the PM related states, those should be Linux generic. For rate
> > > setting sounds like that's really something you should set up as clocks
> > > in the Tegra wrapper driver for SDHCI?
> > > 
> > That's right.
> > 
> > > Ideally the SDHCI driver would be completely arch independent, and
> > > then the SoC specific wrapper driver would know how to communicate to
> > > the pinmux/pinconf framwork or clock framework what it needs using
> > > Linux generic APIs.
> > 
> > But that wrapper driver should not be bothered to call pinmux/pinconf
> > APIs on pin basis to change the pinctrl configuration.  The elegant
> > way would be something like the following in case that it switches
> > the bus frequency from 50 MHz to 100 MHz.
> > 
> > 	pmx = pinmux_get(dev, "esdhc_50mhz");
> > 	...
> > 	pinmux_put(pmx);
> > 	pmx = pinmux_get(dev, "esdhc_100mhz");
> > 	...
> > 
> > The specific mux and config settings of states esdhc_50mhz and
> > esdhc_100mhz would be retrieved from device tree.
> 
> Yes whatever mux names can be used, same as with clock framework
> for clock names. But that means you'll have to constantly get/put
> the mux which is not efficient.
> 
The most important reason that we want to move to pinctrl subsystem
is we need its run-time configuration feature for cases like esdhc
here.  I do not think the switch here is so constant to be inefficient.

> Wouldn't it be cleaner to just clk_get esdhc_clk during init, then
> do clk_set_rate on it to toggle the rates?
>  
It's not an init-time switch but run-time one.  That said,
sdhci_ops.set_clock will be called during run-time.

> > > So I'd rather stay out of random named states for
> > > the pins coming from device tree; If we still need them, they should
> > > be common bindings rather than things like "xyz_clock_hack".
> > > 
> > The binding defines the syntax, and I do not see the necessity to
> > force the particular state name, which is really pinctrl client
> > device specific.
> 
> Do you have some other custom pin state example other than the
> clock rate change example above?
> 
I have another case PM related.  To aggressively save power, the pins
configured for particular function during active mode need to be
muxed on gpio mode and output 0 in low-power mode.

-- 
Regards,
Shawn

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-30  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-20 22:22 Pinmux bindings proposal V2 Stephen Warren
2012-01-23 21:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-23 23:08   ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-24  1:20     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-24 22:29       ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-25  0:04         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-26 19:33           ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27  2:08             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-27  6:57               ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-27 17:05                 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-30  1:56                   ` Shawn Guo [this message]
2012-01-30 17:20                     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-31  1:32                       ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-31  2:29                         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-02-01  5:36                           ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-27 17:36               ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 17:42                 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-26  9:36   ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-26 17:51     ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-27  7:19       ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-27 17:16         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-30  2:10           ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-30 17:43             ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-31  1:07               ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-26  9:24 ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-26 17:42 ` Simon Glass
2012-01-27  2:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-27 15:43     ` Simon Glass
2012-01-27 17:37       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-27 17:51         ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 18:10           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-30  3:27           ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-30  3:13       ` Shawn Guo
2012-01-30 17:49         ` Tony Lindgren
2012-01-27 17:38     ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 17:29   ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-30  2:31     ` Shawn Guo
2012-02-01 14:35 ` Shawn Guo
2012-02-02 18:36   ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-02 20:07     ` Dong Aisheng
2012-02-03 14:02       ` Shawn Guo
2012-02-03 17:21         ` Dong Aisheng
2012-02-03 17:32       ` Tony Lindgren
2012-02-03 18:13         ` Dong Aisheng
2012-02-03 21:05           ` Tony Lindgren
2012-02-04 16:55             ` Dong Aisheng
2012-02-04 17:15               ` Tony Lindgren
2012-02-03  8:46     ` Shawn Guo
2012-02-13 19:58 ` Stephen Warren

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