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From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Erik Gilling <konkers@google.com>
Cc: "MyungJoo Ham" <myungjoo.ham@samsung.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"Arve Hjønnevag" <arve@android.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	myungjoo.ham@gmail.com, "John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Morten CHRISTIANSEN" <morten.christiansen@stericsson.com>,
	"Mike Lockwood" <lockwood@android.com>,
	"Dima Zavin" <dmitriyz@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] Extcon (external connector): import Android's switch class and modify.
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:19:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120331101953.GA3163@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACSP8SjhOZcXZa2hCNsH8zS+hm8X-i9uNm50UH=_VwOV=BJGmA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Erik Gilling wrote:

> I'm also not in favor of having functionality conditionally compiled
> based on CONFIG_ANDROID.  If fact, going through the patch stack
> there's much more that changes the ABI from the switch driver than
> just the name.  Android asumes that there is a single "switch" for
> each logical entity (called cable types in extcon) each with a binary
> state (0,1).  Here things have changed to have a single extcon
> instance that can have a bitmask of states which are sent as strings
> in the uevent.

The binary status thing isn't true for the original Android switch API,
at least not in all cases - for headsets it's a tristate indicating if
there's nothing, a headphone or headset plugged in.  This does wind up
being a bitmask because the numbers are 0, 1 and 2 but it isn't really
clear to me if this is intentional or just an effect of counting.

> As it stands, this patch does not solve the cases where we use switch
> today and we'll probably continue to carry the switch driver in the
> common android tree.  If, instead, we got rid of the idea of multiple
> states and mutual exclusivity and relied on the driver that uses
> extcon to have multiple instances for each logical entity and deal
> with mutual exclusion itself, we'd have a driver that would be pretty
> easy to support in android.

What's the advantage in not having information about mutual exclusion in
the core, and why would a userspace that isn't interested in this care?  
It seems like this could be used by userspace to do interesting things,
and I rather suspect you'll find some vendors have added features along
those lines in their Android devices.  For example, having different
configurations for desk docks and car docks even if both end up
connecting the same things up.

Even if the userspace ABI doesn't expose the information it seems
sensible to factor out the code for handling this into the core so
there's less work to do in individual drivers.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-31 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-11  9:46 [PATCH v3 0/4] introduce External Connector Class (extcon) MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-11  9:46 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] Extcon (external connector): import Android's switch class and modify MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-11  9:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Extcon: support notification based on the state changes MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-11  9:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Extcon: support multiple states at a device MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-11  9:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] Extcon: support mutually exclusive relation between cables MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-20  1:01 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] introduce External Connector Class (extcon) MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-20  1:01   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] Extcon (external connector): import Android's switch class and modify MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-20  1:01   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Extcon: support notification based on the state changes MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-20  1:01   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] Extcon: support multiple states at a device MyungJoo Ham
2012-01-20  1:01   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Extcon: support mutually exclusive relation between cables MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-10  6:40   ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Introduce External Connector Class (extcon) MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-10  6:40     ` [PATCH v5 1/5] Extcon (external connector): import Android's switch class and modify MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-20  1:54       ` Mark Brown
2012-02-20  6:17         ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-20 15:45           ` Mark Brown
2012-02-10  6:40     ` [PATCH v5 2/5] Extcon: support notification based on the state changes MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-20  2:20       ` Mark Brown
2012-02-10  6:40     ` [PATCH v5 3/5] Extcon: support multiple states at a device MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-20  2:24       ` Mark Brown
2012-02-20  7:02         ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-22 10:07       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-10  6:40     ` [PATCH v5 4/5] Extcon: support mutually exclusive relation between cables MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-20  2:27       ` Mark Brown
2012-02-22  8:23         ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-22 10:00           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-24  4:56             ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-24 12:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-27  6:47                 ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-10  6:40     ` [PATCH v5 5/5] Extcon: adc-jack driver to support 3.5 pi or simliar devices MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-10 16:25       ` Mark Brown
2012-02-14  2:22         ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-14  5:58           ` Mark Brown
2012-02-27 12:15     ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Introduce External Connector Class (extcon) MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-27 12:15       ` [PATCH v6 1/5] Extcon (external connector): import Android's switch class and modify MyungJoo Ham
2012-03-09 12:41         ` Mark Brown
2012-03-12  8:06           ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-03-29 22:27           ` Erik Gilling
2012-03-30  8:56             ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-03-30 10:14               ` Mark Brown
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Mark Brown
2012-03-30 17:29               ` Erik Gilling
2012-03-30 17:38                 ` Dima Zavin
2012-04-02  5:09                   ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-03-31 10:19                 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2012-02-27 12:15       ` [PATCH v6 2/5] Extcon: support generic GPIO extcon driver MyungJoo Ham
2012-03-29 22:37         ` Stephen Boyd
2012-03-30  8:33           ` MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-27 12:15       ` [PATCH v6 3/5] Extcon: support notification based on the state changes MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-27 12:15       ` [PATCH v6 4/5] Extcon: support multiple states at a device MyungJoo Ham
2012-02-27 12:15       ` [PATCH v6 5/5] Extcon: support mutually exclusive relation between cables MyungJoo Ham

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