From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756328Ab2FYMOv (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:14:51 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:52545 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755638Ab2FYMOt (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:14:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:14:36 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Mimi Zohar , Linus Torvalds , ". James Morris" , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel , Oleg Nesterov , David Miller Subject: Re: deferring __fput() Message-ID: <20120625121436.GU14083@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <1340369098.2464.20.camel@falcor> <20120623092049.GH14083@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20120623194505.GI14083@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20120623205755.GJ14083@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <1340625805.2507.56.camel@laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1340625805.2507.56.camel@laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 02:03:25PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 21:57 +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > 3) at that point task_work is equal in size (and layout, BTW) to rcu_head. So we can add it > > into the same union in struct file where we already have list_head and rcu_head. No space > > eaten up. fput() would, once the counter reaches 0, remove the file from list (the only > > place walking that list skips the ones with zero refcount anyway) and, if we are in a normal > > process, use task_work_add() to have __fput() done to it. If we are in kernel thread or > > atomic context, just move the sucker to global list and use schedule_work() to have said > > list emptied and everything in it fed to __fput(). > > So we're now Ok with doing fput() async? > > Last time I remember this coming up people thought this wasn't such a > hot idea. You mean, doing that from RCU callbacks? Still a bad idea, IMO; you will end up with a context switch and unpleasantness with delayed user-visible effects of syscalls. With aio we did have a delayed execution of fput() anyway; all that has changed there is that we use generic mechanism instead of home-grown analog thereof. I'll need to reread that thread to comment on the specifics (had been too long ago; I don't remember the details), but... See Linus' objections to full-async fput() circa this April or March. There's a reason why this patchset uses task_work_add() whenever possible.