From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Cc: hkjerry.chu@gmail.com, alex@linlab.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tcp: Wrong timeout for SYN segments
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120830.124543.1590020152319166487.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1346332350.2586.10.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:12:30 -0700
> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:25 -0700, H.K. Jerry Chu wrote:
>
>> But it probably matter slightly more for TCP Fast Open (the server
>> side patch has
>> been completed and will be posted soon, after I finish breaking it up
>> into smaller
>> pieces for ease of review purpose), when a full socket will be created with data
>> passed to the app upon a valid SYN+data. Dropping a fully functioning socket
>> won't be the same as dropping a request_sock unknown to the app and letting
>> the other side retransmitting SYN (w/o data this time).
>>
>> >
>> > Sure, RFC numbers are what they are, but in practice, I doubt someone
>> > will really miss the extra SYNACK sent after ~32 seconds, since it would
>> > matter only for the last SYN attempted.
>>
>> I'd slightly prefer 1 extra retry plus longer wait time just to make
>> TCP Fast Open
>> a little more robust (even though the app protocol is required to be
>> idempotent).
>> But this is not a showstopper.
>
> Thats very good points indeed, thanks.
>
> Maybe we can increase SYNACK max retrans only if the FastOpen SYN cookie
> was validated.
>
> This way, we increase reliability without amplifying the effect of wild
> SYN packets.
Can we come to a final conclusion on this last point and arrive at a final
patch?
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-30 16:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-21 23:29 [PATCH 1/1] tcp: Wrong timeout for SYN segments Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22 8:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 8:48 ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22 8:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 9:29 ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22 9:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 10:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 17:29 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-22 16:44 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
[not found] ` <CAFbMe2M7ekc94bQk7vTS1LhScPd49VZ-zKOCUXhqwxXtL-nkuA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-23 11:58 ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-23 12:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-23 12:35 ` David Laight
2012-08-23 12:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-23 12:37 ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-23 12:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-24 12:17 ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-24 17:42 ` David Miller
2012-08-25 8:48 ` Alexander Bergmann
2012-08-25 9:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-28 8:44 ` Carsten Wolff
[not found] ` <1346414260.2591.8.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
2012-08-31 12:48 ` Alexander Bergmann
2012-08-31 13:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 19:42 ` David Miller
2012-08-31 19:47 ` David Miller
2012-08-29 4:34 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-29 8:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-29 17:25 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-30 13:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-30 16:45 ` David Miller [this message]
2012-08-30 18:04 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-30 17:59 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
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