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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Cc: hkjerry.chu@gmail.com, alex@linlab.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] tcp: Wrong timeout for SYN segments
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 12:45:43 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120830.124543.1590020152319166487.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1346332350.2586.10.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:12:30 -0700

> On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 10:25 -0700, H.K. Jerry Chu wrote:
> 
>> But it probably matter slightly more for TCP Fast Open (the server
>> side patch has
>> been completed and will be posted soon, after I finish breaking it up
>> into smaller
>> pieces for ease of review purpose), when a full socket will be created with data
>> passed to the app upon a valid SYN+data. Dropping a fully functioning socket
>> won't be the same as dropping a request_sock unknown to the app and letting
>> the other side retransmitting SYN (w/o data this time).
>> 
>> >
>> > Sure, RFC numbers are what they are, but in practice, I doubt someone
>> > will really miss the extra SYNACK sent after ~32 seconds, since it would
>> > matter only for the last SYN attempted.
>> 
>> I'd slightly prefer 1 extra retry plus longer wait time just to make
>> TCP Fast Open
>> a little more robust (even though the app protocol is required to be
>> idempotent).
>> But this is not a showstopper.
> 
> Thats very good points indeed, thanks.
> 
> Maybe we can increase SYNACK max retrans only if the FastOpen SYN cookie
> was validated.
> 
> This way, we increase reliability without amplifying the effect of wild
> SYN packets.

Can we come to a final conclusion on this last point and arrive at a final
patch?

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-30 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-21 23:29 [PATCH 1/1] tcp: Wrong timeout for SYN segments Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22  8:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22  8:48   ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22  8:58     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22  9:29       ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-22  9:59         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 10:03           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-22 17:29             ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-22 16:44 ` H.K. Jerry Chu
     [not found] ` <CAFbMe2M7ekc94bQk7vTS1LhScPd49VZ-zKOCUXhqwxXtL-nkuA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-23 11:58   ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-23 12:15     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-23 12:35       ` David Laight
2012-08-23 12:51         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-23 12:37       ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-23 12:49         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-24 12:17           ` Alex Bergmann
2012-08-24 17:42           ` David Miller
2012-08-25  8:48             ` Alexander Bergmann
2012-08-25  9:01               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-28  8:44               ` Carsten Wolff
     [not found]                 ` <1346414260.2591.8.camel@edumazet-glaptop>
2012-08-31 12:48                   ` Alexander Bergmann
2012-08-31 13:25                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-31 19:42                       ` David Miller
2012-08-31 19:47                         ` David Miller
2012-08-29  4:34               ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-29  8:51                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-29 17:25                   ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-30 13:12                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-30 16:45                       ` David Miller [this message]
2012-08-30 18:04                         ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2012-08-30 17:59                       ` H.K. Jerry Chu

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