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* [PATCH] frontswap: support exclusive gets if tmem backend is capable
@ 2012-08-31 15:48 Dan Magenheimer
  2012-08-31 17:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Magenheimer @ 2012-08-31 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konrad Wilk; +Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel, Hugh Dickins

Konrad, can this go in linux-next and in the next window?

Tmem, as originally specified, assumes that "get" operations
performed on persistent pools never flush the page of data out
of tmem on a successful get, waiting instead for a flush
operation.  This is intended to mimic the model of a swap
disk, where a disk read is non-destructive.  Unlike a
disk, however, freeing up the RAM can be valuable.  Over
the years that frontswap was in the review process, several
reviewers (and notably Hugh Dickins in 2010) pointed out that
this would result, at least temporarily, in two copies of the
data in RAM: one (compressed for zcache) copy in tmem,
and one copy in the swap cache.  We wondered if this could
be done differently, at least optionally.

This patch allows tmem backends to instruct the frontswap
code that this backend performs exclusive gets.  Zcache2
already contains hooks to support this feature.  Other
backends are completely unaffected unless/until they are
updated to support this feature.

While it is not clear that exclusive gets are a performance
win on all workloads at all times, this small patch allows for
experimentation by backends.

P.S. Let's not quibble about the naming of "get" vs "read" vs
"load" etc.  The naming is currently horribly inconsistent between
cleancache and frontswap and existing tmem backends, so will need
to be straightened out as a separate patch.  "Get" is used
by the tmem architecture spec, existing backends, and
all documentation and presentation material so I am
using it in this patch.

Signed-off-by: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>

diff --git a/include/linux/frontswap.h b/include/linux/frontswap.h
index 0e4e2ee..3044254 100644
--- a/include/linux/frontswap.h
+++ b/include/linux/frontswap.h
@@ -19,6 +19,8 @@ extern struct frontswap_ops
 extern void frontswap_shrink(unsigned long);
 extern unsigned long frontswap_curr_pages(void);
 extern void frontswap_writethrough(bool);
+#define FRONTSWAP_HAS_EXCLUSIVE_GETS
+extern void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool);
 
 extern void __frontswap_init(unsigned type);
 extern int __frontswap_store(struct page *page);
diff --git a/mm/frontswap.c b/mm/frontswap.c
index e250255..b1496fb 100644
--- a/mm/frontswap.c
+++ b/mm/frontswap.c
@@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_enabled);
  */
 static bool frontswap_writethrough_enabled __read_mostly;
 
+/*
+ * If enabled, the underlying tmem implementation is capable of doing
+ * exclusive gets, so frontswap_load, on a successful tmem_get must
+ * mark the page as no longer in frontswap AND mark it dirty.
+ */
+static bool frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled __read_mostly;
+
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
 /*
  * Counters available via /sys/kernel/debug/frontswap (if debugfs is
@@ -101,6 +108,15 @@ void frontswap_writethrough(bool enable)
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_writethrough);
 
 /*
+ * Enable/disable frontswap exclusive gets (see above).
+ */
+void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool enable)
+{
+	frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled = enable;
+}
+EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets);
+
+/*
  * Called when a swap device is swapon'd.
  */
 void __frontswap_init(unsigned type)
@@ -174,8 +190,13 @@ int __frontswap_load(struct page *page)
 	BUG_ON(sis == NULL);
 	if (frontswap_test(sis, offset))
 		ret = (*frontswap_ops.load)(type, offset, page);
-	if (ret == 0)
+	if (ret == 0) {
 		inc_frontswap_loads();
+		if (frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled) {
+			SetPageDirty(page);
+			frontswap_clear(sis, offset);
+		}
+	}
 	return ret;
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(__frontswap_load);

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* Re: [PATCH] frontswap: support exclusive gets if tmem backend is capable
  2012-08-31 15:48 [PATCH] frontswap: support exclusive gets if tmem backend is capable Dan Magenheimer
@ 2012-08-31 17:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  2012-08-31 17:23   ` Dan Magenheimer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2012-08-31 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dan Magenheimer; +Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel, Hugh Dickins

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 08:48:10AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> Konrad, can this go in linux-next and in the next window?
> 
> Tmem, as originally specified, assumes that "get" operations
> performed on persistent pools never flush the page of data out
> of tmem on a successful get, waiting instead for a flush
> operation.  This is intended to mimic the model of a swap
> disk, where a disk read is non-destructive.  Unlike a
> disk, however, freeing up the RAM can be valuable.  Over
> the years that frontswap was in the review process, several
> reviewers (and notably Hugh Dickins in 2010) pointed out that
> this would result, at least temporarily, in two copies of the
> data in RAM: one (compressed for zcache) copy in tmem,
> and one copy in the swap cache.  We wondered if this could
> be done differently, at least optionally.
> 
> This patch allows tmem backends to instruct the frontswap
> code that this backend performs exclusive gets.  Zcache2
> already contains hooks to support this feature.  Other
> backends are completely unaffected unless/until they are
> updated to support this feature.
> 
> While it is not clear that exclusive gets are a performance
> win on all workloads at all times, this small patch allows for
> experimentation by backends.
> 
> P.S. Let's not quibble about the naming of "get" vs "read" vs
> "load" etc.  The naming is currently horribly inconsistent between
> cleancache and frontswap and existing tmem backends, so will need
> to be straightened out as a separate patch.  "Get" is used
> by the tmem architecture spec, existing backends, and
> all documentation and presentation material so I am
> using it in this patch.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/frontswap.h b/include/linux/frontswap.h
> index 0e4e2ee..3044254 100644
> --- a/include/linux/frontswap.h
> +++ b/include/linux/frontswap.h
> @@ -19,6 +19,8 @@ extern struct frontswap_ops
>  extern void frontswap_shrink(unsigned long);
>  extern unsigned long frontswap_curr_pages(void);
>  extern void frontswap_writethrough(bool);
> +#define FRONTSWAP_HAS_EXCLUSIVE_GETS
> +extern void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool);

I don't think you need the #define here.. 
>  
>  extern void __frontswap_init(unsigned type);
>  extern int __frontswap_store(struct page *page);
> diff --git a/mm/frontswap.c b/mm/frontswap.c
> index e250255..b1496fb 100644
> --- a/mm/frontswap.c
> +++ b/mm/frontswap.c
> @@ -48,6 +48,13 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_enabled);
>   */
>  static bool frontswap_writethrough_enabled __read_mostly;
>  
> +/*
> + * If enabled, the underlying tmem implementation is capable of doing
> + * exclusive gets, so frontswap_load, on a successful tmem_get must
> + * mark the page as no longer in frontswap AND mark it dirty.
> + */
> +static bool frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled __read_mostly;
> +
>  #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
>  /*
>   * Counters available via /sys/kernel/debug/frontswap (if debugfs is
> @@ -101,6 +108,15 @@ void frontswap_writethrough(bool enable)
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_writethrough);
>  
>  /*
> + * Enable/disable frontswap exclusive gets (see above).
> + */
> +void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool enable)
> +{
> +	frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled = enable;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets);

We got two of these now - the writethrough and this one. Merging
them in one function and one flag might be better. So something like:
static int frontswap_mode = 0;

void frontswap_set_mode(int set_mode)
{
	if (mode & (FRONTSWAP_WRITETH | FRONTSWAP_EXCLUS..)
		mode |= set_mode;
}

... and
> +
> +/*
>   * Called when a swap device is swapon'd.
>   */
>  void __frontswap_init(unsigned type)
> @@ -174,8 +190,13 @@ int __frontswap_load(struct page *page)
>  	BUG_ON(sis == NULL);
>  	if (frontswap_test(sis, offset))
>  		ret = (*frontswap_ops.load)(type, offset, page);
> -	if (ret == 0)
> +	if (ret == 0) {
>  		inc_frontswap_loads();
> +		if (frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled) {

For these perhaps use asm goto for optimization? Is this showing up in
perf as a hotspot? The asm goto might be a bit too much.

> +			SetPageDirty(page);
> +			frontswap_clear(sis, offset);
> +		}
> +	}
>  	return ret;
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(__frontswap_load);

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* RE: [PATCH] frontswap: support exclusive gets if tmem backend is capable
  2012-08-31 17:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
@ 2012-08-31 17:23   ` Dan Magenheimer
  2012-08-31 21:10     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Magenheimer @ 2012-08-31 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Konrad Wilk; +Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel, Hugh Dickins

> From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

Hi Konrad --

Thanks for the fast feedback!

> > +#define FRONTSWAP_HAS_EXCLUSIVE_GETS
> > +extern void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool);
> 
> I don't think you need the #define here..

The #define is used by an ifdef in the backend to ensure
that it is using a version of frontswap that has this feature,
so avoids the need for the frontend (frontswap) and
the backend (e.g. zcache2) to merge in lockstep.

> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets);
> 
> We got two of these now - the writethrough and this one. Merging
> them in one function and one flag might be better. So something like:
> static int frontswap_mode = 0;
>
> void frontswap_set_mode(int set_mode)
> {
> 	if (mode & (FRONTSWAP_WRITETH | FRONTSWAP_EXCLUS..)
> 		mode |= set_mode;
> }

IMHO, it's too soon to try to optimize this.  One or
both of these may go away.   Or the mode may become
more fine-grained in the future (e.g. to allow individual
gets to be exclusive).

So unless you object strongly, let's just leave this
as is for now and revisit in the future if more "modes"
are needed.
 
> ... and
> > +
> > +/*
> >   * Called when a swap device is swapon'd.
> >   */
> >  void __frontswap_init(unsigned type)
> > @@ -174,8 +190,13 @@ int __frontswap_load(struct page *page)
> >  	BUG_ON(sis == NULL);
> >  	if (frontswap_test(sis, offset))
> >  		ret = (*frontswap_ops.load)(type, offset, page);
> > -	if (ret == 0)
> > +	if (ret == 0) {
> >  		inc_frontswap_loads();
> > +		if (frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled) {
> 
> For these perhaps use asm goto for optimization? Is this showing up in
> perf as a hotspot? The asm goto might be a bit too much.

This is definitely not a performance hotspot.  Frontswap code
only is ever executed in situations where a swap-to-disk would
otherwise have occurred.  And in this case, this code only
gets executed after the frontswap_test has confirmed that
tmem does already contain the page of data, in which case
there is thousands of cycles spent copying and/or decompressing.

Dan

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* Re: [PATCH] frontswap: support exclusive gets if tmem backend is capable
  2012-08-31 17:23   ` Dan Magenheimer
@ 2012-08-31 21:10     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk @ 2012-08-31 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dan Magenheimer; +Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel, Hugh Dickins

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:23:21AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> 
> Hi Konrad --
> 
> Thanks for the fast feedback!

Sure. Had a couple of minutes in between the talks.
> 
> > > +#define FRONTSWAP_HAS_EXCLUSIVE_GETS
> > > +extern void frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets(bool);
> > 
> > I don't think you need the #define here..
> 
> The #define is used by an ifdef in the backend to ensure
> that it is using a version of frontswap that has this feature,
> so avoids the need for the frontend (frontswap) and
> the backend (e.g. zcache2) to merge in lockstep.

Then lets post the ramster patch as part of the patch series
which will include this patch as the first component and the
second would be the ramster part.

> 
> > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets);
> > 
> > We got two of these now - the writethrough and this one. Merging
> > them in one function and one flag might be better. So something like:
> > static int frontswap_mode = 0;
> >
> > void frontswap_set_mode(int set_mode)
> > {
> > 	if (mode & (FRONTSWAP_WRITETH | FRONTSWAP_EXCLUS..)
> > 		mode |= set_mode;
> > }
> 
> IMHO, it's too soon to try to optimize this.  One or
> both of these may go away.   Or the mode may become
> more fine-grained in the future (e.g. to allow individual
> gets to be exclusive).

Sure. At which point we can modify it/remove this. Lets
do the 'frontswap_set_mode' as it seems much nicer than just adding
extra frontswap_some_new_function.

> 
> So unless you object strongly, let's just leave this
> as is for now and revisit in the future if more "modes"
> are needed.

Nah. Lets do the mode.
>  
> > ... and
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > >   * Called when a swap device is swapon'd.
> > >   */
> > >  void __frontswap_init(unsigned type)
> > > @@ -174,8 +190,13 @@ int __frontswap_load(struct page *page)
> > >  	BUG_ON(sis == NULL);
> > >  	if (frontswap_test(sis, offset))
> > >  		ret = (*frontswap_ops.load)(type, offset, page);
> > > -	if (ret == 0)
> > > +	if (ret == 0) {
> > >  		inc_frontswap_loads();
> > > +		if (frontswap_tmem_exclusive_gets_enabled) {
> > 
> > For these perhaps use asm goto for optimization? Is this showing up in
> > perf as a hotspot? The asm goto might be a bit too much.
> 
> This is definitely not a performance hotspot.  Frontswap code
> only is ever executed in situations where a swap-to-disk would
> otherwise have occurred.  And in this case, this code only
> gets executed after the frontswap_test has confirmed that
> tmem does already contain the page of data, in which case
> there is thousands of cycles spent copying and/or decompressing.

Ok. Lets leave this with just a check: if (frontswap_flag &
FRONTSWAP_EXCLUSIVE_GET)...
> 
> Dan

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