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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] PCI: Lock down BAR access in secure boot environments
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:00:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121001210034.GA21712@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1346774117-2277-3-git-send-email-mjg@redhat.com>

On Tue 2012-09-04 11:55:08, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Any hardware that can potentially generate DMA has to be locked down from
> userspace in order to avoid it being possible for an attacker to cause
> arbitrary kernel behaviour. Default to paranoid - in future we can
> potentially relax this for sufficiently IOMMU-isolated devices.

Would it be possible to

1) Use some better name than CAP_SECURE_FIRMWARE

2) Explain somewhere what the real requirements for "secure" boot are?

"Secure" kernel may not boot unsigned kernel... what does it mean
exactly?

Suppose I launch full-screen window with dosemu running original
windows installation on HDD, accessing raw disks, at nearly native
speed. That is not something kernel should prevent, but it still
allows me to do to do the stuff "secure" boot was designed to
prevent... right?

What is the exact threat "secure" boot should protect us against?

								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-01 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-04 15:55 [RFC] First attempt at kernel secure boot support Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 01/11] Secure boot: Add new capability Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 02/11] PCI: Lock down BAR access in secure boot environments Matthew Garrett
2012-10-01 21:00   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 16:16   ` Alan Cox
2012-09-04 16:16     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 04/11] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 05/11] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 16:12   ` Alan Cox
2012-09-04 16:13     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 06/11] Restrict /dev/mem and /dev/kmem in secure boot setups Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 07/11] kexec: Disable in a secure boot environment Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 20:13   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-04 20:22     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 21:13       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-04 21:27         ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 22:12           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-04 23:25             ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-05  4:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-05  5:16                 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-05  7:00                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-05  7:03                     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 21:39         ` Alan Cox
2012-09-04 21:40           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-05 15:43             ` Roland Eggner
2012-09-05 15:46               ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-05 21:13   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-09-05 21:41     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-05 21:49       ` Eric Paris
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 08/11] Secure boot: Add a dummy kernel parameter that will switch on Secure Boot mode Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 09/11] efi: Enable secure boot lockdown automatically when enabled in firmware Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 10/11] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel parameter in a secure boot environment Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 16:30   ` Shuah Khan
2012-09-04 16:38     ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 16:44       ` Shuah Khan
2012-09-04 20:37         ` Alan Cox
2012-09-04 20:37           ` Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 20:50             ` Josh Boyer
2012-09-04 15:55 ` [PATCH 11/11] SELinux: define mapping for new Secure Boot capability Matthew Garrett
2012-09-04 16:08 ` [RFC] First attempt at kernel secure boot support Alan Cox
2012-09-04 16:12   ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-01 21:07     ` Pavel Machek

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