From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934121Ab2JWW7Y (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:59:24 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:57180 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932658Ab2JWW7W (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:59:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:59:15 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Andrea Arcangeli , linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/10] thp: implement refcounting for huge zero page Message-Id: <20121023155915.7d5ef9d1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20121023070018.GA18381@otc-wbsnb-06> References: <1350280859-18801-1-git-send-email-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <1350280859-18801-11-git-send-email-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20121018164502.b32791e7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20121018235941.GA32397@shutemov.name> <20121023063532.GA15870@shutemov.name> <20121022234349.27f33f62.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20121023070018.GA18381@otc-wbsnb-06> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:00:18 +0300 "Kirill A. Shutemov" wrote: > > Well, how hard is it to trigger the bad behavior? One can easily > > create a situation in which that page's refcount frequently switches > > from 0 to 1 and back again. And one can easily create a situation in > > which the shrinkers are being called frequently. Run both at the same > > time and what happens? > > If the goal is to trigger bad behavior then: > > 1. read from an area where a huge page can be mapped to get huge zero page > mapped. hzp is allocated here. refcounter == 2. > 2. write to the same page. refcounter == 1. > 3. echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches. refcounter == 0 -> free the hzp. > 4. goto 1. > > But it's unrealistic. /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is only root-accessible. Yes, drop_caches is uninteresting. > We can trigger shrinker only under memory pressure. But in this, most > likely we will get -ENOMEM on hzp allocation and will go to fallback path > (4k zero page). I disagree. If, for example, there is a large amount of clean pagecache being generated then the shrinkers will be called frequently and memory reclaim will be running at a 100% success rate. The hugepage allocation will be successful in such a situation?