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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Amnon Shiloh <u3557@miso.sublimeip.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:12:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121122161238.GA27078@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121121173043.F0319592076@miso.sublimeip.com>

On 11/22, Amnon Shiloh wrote:
>
> Now however, that "vsyscall" was effectively replaced by vdso, it
> creates a new problem for me and probably for anyone else who uses
> some form of checkpoint/restore:

Oh, sorry, I can't help here. I can only add Cyrill and Pavel, they
seem to enjoy trying to solve the c/r problems.

> Suppose a process is checkpointed because the system needs to reboot
> for a kernel-upgrade, then restored on the new and different kernel.
> The new VDSO page may no longer match the new kernel - it could for
> example fetch data from addresses in the vsyscall page that now
> contain different things; or in case the hardware also was changed,
> it may use machine-instructions that are now illegal.

Sure. You shouldn't try to save/restore this page(s) directly. But
I do not really understand why do you need. IOW, I don't really
understand the problem, it depends on what c/r actually does.

> As I don't mind to forego the "fast" sys_time(), my obvious solution
> is to disable the vdso for traced processes that may be checkpointed.
>
> One way to do it would be by brute-force: straight after "execve"
> unmap the tracee's vdso page,

Not sure this will be always possible. For example, my (old) glibc
assumes that vsyscall() must work, I won't be surprised if some time
later it won't work without vdso. But again, I do not know.

> then manipulate the ELF tables in
> its memory so the VDSO entry is gone and the library will not go
> looking for it.

Probably it would be enough to simply erase AT_SYSINFO_EHDR note,
but again, I can be easily wrong.

> I just wonder whether you know of an easier and more standard way
> to disable the vdso in user-mode

Only the kernel parameter, afaics. vdso=0

> - ideally on a per-process basis,
> or otherwise, if it's too hard, on the whole computer.  I searched
> the web and found references to "/proc/sys/vm/vdso_enable", but I
> have no such file or "sysctl" option on my system.

sys/vm/vdso_enabled, but only if CONFIG_X86_32 for some reason. See
kernel/sysctl.c

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-22 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 18:29 [PATCH] arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-09 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 17:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-19 18:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 10:33       ` u3557
2012-11-20 15:48       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 15:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-20 18:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-20 23:16           ` u3557
2012-11-21 14:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-21 17:30               ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-22 16:12                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-11-22 20:57                   ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Pavel Emelyanov
2012-11-23  0:20                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:45                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 12:47                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 17:42                     ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23  9:14                   ` arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-23 16:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 17:05                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 14:14                         ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-24 13:45                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-25 22:55                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-25 23:48                           ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-12-02 19:30                             ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-02 23:54                               ` u3557
2012-12-04 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-04 22:44                                   ` u3557
2013-01-08 17:08                                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-01-09 17:52                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-10  6:54                                       ` u3557
2013-01-12 18:12                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-14  2:31                                           ` u3557
2013-01-14 16:01                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-18  1:39                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18  5:44                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Randy Dunlap
2013-02-18 15:21                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:33                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-18 19:49                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19  6:25                                                       ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20  8:39                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20  9:38                                                           ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-20 10:51                                                             ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-20 11:16                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  7:46                                                               ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:00                                                                 ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21  8:03                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-21  8:09                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-21 22:18                                                                   ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Andrew Morton
2013-02-21 22:42                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Cyrill Gorcunov
2013-02-22  1:18                                                                     ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Amnon Shiloh
2013-02-22 14:23                                                         ` prctl(PR_SET_MM) Denys Vlasenko
2012-12-05  9:29                               ` PTRACE_SYSCALL && vsyscall (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range check) Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-05 13:14                                 ` u3557
2012-11-26  9:44                   ` vdso && cr " Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 12:27                     ` Andrey Wagin
2012-11-26 12:55                       ` Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:18                         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-11-26 14:26                           ` vdso && cr (Was: arch_check_bp_in_kernelspace: fix the range Amnon Shiloh
2012-11-26 14:41                             ` vdso && cr Cyrill Gorcunov

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