From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757951Ab2LHHgh (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 02:36:37 -0500 Received: from rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de ([129.143.116.10]:53233 "EHLO rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757936Ab2LHHgf (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 02:36:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:36:34 +0100 From: Andreas Mohr To: Borislav Petkov , Andreas Mohr , Andrew Morton , Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Li Shaohua , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas Subject: Re: Look Ma, da kernel is b0rken Message-ID: <20121208073634.GA30690@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de> References: <20121205070901.GA12123@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de> <20121205142935.GA12119@liondog.tnic> <20121205152756.5afec12c@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> <20121205153121.GA28556@liondog.tnic> <20121205133853.770451ca.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20121207165218.GA13421@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de> <20121207174405.GF27523@liondog.tnic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121207174405.GF27523@liondog.tnic> X-Priority: none User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 06:44:05PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 05:52:18PM +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote: > > Hmm, anyone deeply familiar with ISA PnP ID magic? :) > > Even if this is violating the ACPI spec, any fix for this needs to be > tested on the hardware (and I can very well imagine that the hardware > might be violating the spec too, nothing new here). > > So even if you had a fix, you need to run it on the hardware to verify > that it actually works. And that demand actually applies to both the '@' change (questionable) and the much less disputed (obviously correct) wrong conditional fixup, since both introduce a notable change (either large, or possibly improper) in behaviour. > So the actual practical question turns into: do you have such hardware > to verify your or anyone else's fix on? Not the ALS100 (only ALS4000 here). I possibly have some other ISA hardware, but probably none which contains '@' data in their PnP id struct. The driver for the well-known case of ISDN PnP cards does not seem to contain it. However ISTR that CMI8330 was quite widespread (did I have one? Do I??). For identification, see http://www.yjfy.com/C/C-Media/soundchipset/CMI8330A.htm I'm afraid I should get an old system back up and running, exactly for such validation work cases (and perhaps so should a select few other developers, too). BTW, "my" fix? I thought that everybody had come to the conclusion by now that I merely pointed out (in no uncertain terms to boot) that something was broken :) Andreas Mohr